Custom Fitz'ed Colt Official Police .38

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Most of the conditions no longer apply, if they ever did.

Jim,

it is my understanding that the main purpose of the Fitz was to be able to quickly reach into a pocket and perhaps shoot without drawing.

since we still have pockets you must be talking about something else.

Your points are usually well thought out so I look forward to your response.
 
Conk somebody on the head with that once and it's out of action. Oh forgot, today's cops neither carry revolvers nor conk perps on the head. Nevermind. Joe
 
CraigC- Butchering is not the same as customizing.

I hope John Fitzgerald is burning in Hell for inspiring people to cut up their revolvers.

Geez. Lighten up, Francis. It's just a gun, and a common one at that. You may not like or appreciate the work that's been done on it but instead of crapping on someone else's project, why not do like your Mom used to tell you - "If you don't have anything good to say, just don't say anything at all".
 
Thank you to all of you who took the time to type out your appreciation for my Colt. It was very enjoyable for me to get my dream gun finally put together. I love the guns of the past and my tastes generally run to blued steel and leather as opposed to polymer and kydex. (However, I do have polymer and kydex too!)

For some reason, there are those who view guns only as monetary investments and believe they should remain as they came from the factory. As others have mentioned, Colt made many, many Official Police .38's and they are far from rare. I would never have modified a 100% original, in the box, Colt OP. But this gun's finish was gone and its bore was almost unsafe to shoot. I'm sure the bullets would have keyholed.

I have modified many of my guns to my own tastes. I won't be selling them anytime soon. I shoot them all (which also drives some people crazy and I admit to finding that rather pleasurable) and enjoy them every day.

Here's a few more examples of guns I have "butchered":

Decimated value of ultra rare Colt Combat Elite by hacking the frame to accomodate an Ed Brown bobtailed mainspring housing (but it feels so much better in my hand when I shoot it!):

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Hacked down barrel to 16" Marlin 336 from the 100th Anniversary 1870-1970 with a Leupold Scout Scope (blasphemy on a lever action rifle!)...but it works so darn well on dangerous game!

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Marlin 1894 .44 Magnum with hacked barrel, custom John Wayne big loop lever, and all scratched up:

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Ruger Super Single Six destroyed by non-factory scratching:

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Absolutely factory original Colt 1903 .32 Pocket Hammerless. Orange rust coated and pitted bore and zero finish left over:

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Horrifically re-blued but without losing any writing or the Rampant Colt horse:

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Then scratched all to heck (this one was definitely a mistake since Colt made over 1 million of them and they are therefore so rare, especially in such terrible condition):

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I wish I had the before photos of this poor little S&W .32 Safety Hammerless when I first purchased it. The nickel plating was all but gone and the gun looked terrible. I tried really hard to bring it back. Not sure if I succeeded though. I might have to throw this butchered gun in the garbage:

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A few more guns all scratched up and their value destroyed:

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An example of a gun you should never ever ever shoot. 1986 Colt 150th Anniversary Engraved Sampler with factory elephant ivory grips. Geez, it shoots right to point of aim with sights just the way they are!

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Here's another one. S&W Performance Center .45 Schofield Model of 2000. Too valuable to ever shoot. Very rare. But cocking it fast and shooting it in Cowboy Action Shooting matches sure is fun!

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All of the above obviously tongue in cheek and for the appreciation of those who understand that, yep they're my guns, nope I'm not selling 'em, yep I'm shooting the daylights out of 'em, and yes sir I'm happy doing it and living my gun life to its fullest!

Thanks again for your kind comments!
 
mm6mm6

thanks for sharing pics of your collection.

while I am not generally a fan of engraved guns you have some awfully nice stuff.

of course the coolest thing is not the guns but rather how much fun you are having with them

keep your powder dry
 
it is my understanding that the main purpose of the Fitz was to be able to quickly reach into a pocket and perhaps shoot without drawing.

since we still have pockets you must be talking about something else.

I never heard that Fitzgerald figured on shooting through his pocket. And even if he did, I fail to see what advantage chopping out the trigger guard offered. Elmer Keith said Mrs Fitzgerald liked jewelry and Mr Fitzgerald meant to protect his investment, so was always seen with a hand in a pocket on a gun butt.

Clothing styles change. I can't reasonably carry my S&W M12 in a pants pocket whereas Fitzgerald was said to carry a sawn off New Service in EACH front pants pocket.

Look at a Bill Jordan trigger guard for improved access by a very long trigger finger without completely exposing the trigger to snagging or a stub guard to bending.




What's next mm6? A Lone Wolf Gonzaullas 1911?

I gotta say, while I think chopping the trigger guard is a bad move, I admire your gumption in actually shooting engraved guns. I do too, even though I only have one.
 
What a great collection and you sir have excellent taste in firearms.
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You know what they say about shooting engraved guns?

You look even stupider if you cant hit what you are shooting at.
 
Jim,

Most of what I know about Fitz modifications I learned at the feet of Old Fuff. (the information is worth the smell :neener:)

I went back to read and did not come across him saying anything about shooting from the pocket. Guess I imagined it.

I did come across him saying this.
the Fitz Special was intended to be carried in a pocket, and the design was dictated by the purpose. At the time it was far less controversial then it is now, but even then some knowledgeable people didn’t approve of it. On the other hand some very experienced individuals such as Charles Askins, Rex Applegate and William Fairbairn did, and these gentlemen all knew their way around a gunfight. It still remains as an innovate solution to a particular situation that was favored by some, and rejected by others. You could say the same about any defensive handgun that was ever made.

I found it persuasive. After all, Askins', Applegate's and Fairbairn's opinions are worthy of respect and consideration.

It is important to note that I did not find this persuasive enough to take a hacksaw to my old Colts.
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"You know what they say about shooting engraved guns? You look even stupider if you cant hit what you are shooting at."

That is just classic! And oh so true!
 
you are one lucky guy! i didnt see one gun in this thread that wasnt drop dead sexy! i am very glad that you actually shoot your collecton, there are way too many people that buy guns to look at and never really enjoy them.

btw: that .44 marlin.....very nice! just love it!
 
How much is engraving? Or do you do that yourself?


God I love the Colt Pocket Hammerless's.


And the engraving? *le sigh* :eek:
 
Michael Gouse's website is www.mtart.com (for Montana Art) and I think you'll find his engraving prices less than you would expect. He can do all the styles, from American Scroll (my favorite) to German Oak Leaves and Acorns and everything in between.

When he engraved my Colt Pocket Hammerless, it only cost $300 for 75% coverage American Scroll....
 
I dig your attitude mm6mm. who did the engraving onj the stainless single six?

cool fitz, too. I respect and admire saxonpig and his collection but I disagree about your OP being ruined. and you do have taste...
 
mm6mm6, geez you butchered the crap out of that Colt 1903 ... but I'm not one to hold such a thing against a person, so if you'd like to send it to me I can give it a proper burial and maybe ease your conscience a bit.
 
1KPerDay: Thanks for the kind words! The Ruger was engraved by Jeff Flannery of Union, Kentucky.

Zundfolge: :)
 
Looks great.
Can I please come to your house and hold every last one? I just want to look and drool on them please. Those sure are some beautiful suckers.
 
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Spectacular reclamation of the 1903 Colt Hammerless,may I inquire who did the work? I have an old favorite that I sure would like to help out in just the same way.
 
Thought this might be of interest....
 

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What a fantastic gun.
I usually take the Hippocratic oath when it comes to firearms preservation "first do no harm".
I do not generally believe in modifying a piece of history or Americana but what you have had done is something altogether different.
You took a couple pieces that separately had no soul and brought them together in a representation of one of the neatest firearm modifications ever devised.
Well done sir.
 
All of the guns that still have their trigger guards intact look great.

That Colt auto is one of the most beautiful handguns I have ever seen and I have said that before.

I love a well done custom gun.

I abhor butchery like hacking away a trigger guard. That is an abomination IMO.
 
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