CZ 527 FS with a Mannlicher stock

[Anteater1717]

Should I, or should I not buy a CZ 527 FS with a Mannlicher stock in .223? This would mainly be a plinking / coyote gun. How are accuracy, reliability, warranty, finish, action, wood, and everything else? How is 1:12for a .223? Good buy or should I avoid it? It looked like fun.

Here is a link
http://www.cz-usa.com/product_detail.php?id=9

 

[Eightball]

Dangit, man. I had suppressed my desire to own one as a fun/plinking/possible varmit or small game gun. Dunno how it shoots, but mmmmm, is it sweet.

Great. You rekindled my desire for one of those, right after I got a carbine :banghead:

 

[rangerruck]

1/12 will stabilize bullets only up to 62 grains. but that being said, this is a fabulous gun. I have two.

 

[Zundfolge]

I've always loved the look of the full Mannlicher stock on a rifle ... but does it have any adverse effect on accuracy?

 

[rockstar.esq]

I too have read about how full length stocks aren't supposed to shoot well. Granted I don't see them on the benchrest circuit much. Then again, nearly every mannlicher stocked rifle I've ever seen had worn patches on the stock from where it's previous owner carried it over hill and dale. I tend to believe that they will deliver the needed accuracy for the job at hand. They may not be tackdrivers for twenty shots at a time, but I think that the first three will group quite closely. This might well depend on a good full length glass bedding job, and some judicious stock weather treatment to keep things stable when damp or hot or whatever. All of which is relatively easy to do.

 

[SwampWolf]

My thoughts, exactly, rockstar.esq. I've found mannlichers in general to be a little more "finickey" in terms of holding a zero over time but they all have shot well enough "to get the job done". A laminated mannlicher might be a partial solution. For me, I like the aesthetics of a well-designed full-length stock so much that I'm willing to put up with a few idiosyncrasies

 

[Z_Infidel]

I can't speak to the 527, but I have a CZ550FS in .30-06 and it is top notch. The stock shape facilitates shooting with either a scope or the iron sights. I have a Leupold VXII 1-4X mounted, and the rifle is as accurate as I will ever need it to be. I think the full length forestock makes it a fine looking rifle, and the wood on mine is finished very nicely.

 

[Nimick]

In the short term you may have some trouble finding ammo in that caliber. but it is a shweet gun.

 

[Poper]

I can't speak for .223 accuracy, but my .222 will shoot a 5 shot group at 100 yds. smaller than a dime. Sub MOA is typical. (6-18x40 Nikon scope)

Load data: Case = RP (neck sized), Primer = cci-small rifle bench rest, bullet = Hornady 40 grain V-Max, powder = 24.2 grains VV n-133.

Poper

 

[balletto]

Saw one in the local gander mountain...

...two weeks ago. I had to remind myself of the spousal penalties that would ensue for making such an unplanned purchase, otherwise it would have been mine

 

[Zundfolge]

Ok, next dumb question; can you shoot 5.56mm out of a .223 CZ?

 

[jkingrph]

I do not know about accuracy on this CZ model, however one of the most accurate rifles is a full stock, with full handgard 1911 Swiss Schmidt-Rubin. All that wood out front does not seem to hurt it.

 

[SwampWolf]

Zundfolge: To answer your question, yes. The 5.56mm is the military version of the two rounds. The 5.56mm and the .223 cal. are essentially one and the same.

 

[Zundfolge]

SwampWolf, thats not entirely true. while both are pretty much the same size, Military 5.56mm is loaded to higher pressures than .223. There are several .223 rifles on the market that will say expressly "Do Not Load with 5.56mmNATO" (here's what Winchester has to say about the differences).

I just wondered if the CZ was capable of handling the hotter 5.56mm

 

[Azidiot]

Zundefogle,
The CZ 527 is made of modern materials and is quite beefy. On par with Tikkas, Rugers, Remingtons, etc.
I would not be afraid to use surplus ammo in one.
Azidiot

 

[GoWyo!]

I've got one and it's a sweetheart, averages about .75" groups with whatever goes downrange. That's kind of cool. My problem is I don't shoot it enough...ok, any as of lately.

One thing though, it does have that european drop to the stock. The american might fit you better. I've got a huge melon, so it works for me.

Gary

 

[gazpacho]

I just posted this in a new thread, but it should be applicable here. The rifle in question is the 527 carbine, but it should have the exact same chamber.

From: Mike Eagleshield [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:02 AM
To: 'Brian Welch'
Subject: RE: FROM CZ-USA WWW - CZ-527 Carbine 223 Rem


The 527 .223 has a CIP spec chamber and will handle all 5.56x45mm ammunition
under 60gr bullet weight(due to 1 in 12" twist).