Dance Navy (Pietta)

[RoyLOak]

For those who were not aware, Dr. Jim Davis did pass away last September. I spoke with him last June about his book he had been working on for many years and he was asking if I might be interested in taking on the project because his health was failing. Before he could get the multiple file cabinets of notes shipped to me, he passed away. Those notes have now been passed on to his nephew who is settling the estate and we will discuss who may or may not finish the book. October Country had purchased the majority of the collection. They are listing the revolvers each Friday and have many more to list. Their knowledge of the collectability of the revolvers is not as strong as it could be, but to know the uniqueness of all the collectables would be very difficult. But that means better deals for those of us who have the information at hand or know where to look for it. I hope this clears up why the revolvers are being sold off.

 

[expat_alaska]

Roy,

Thank you very much for the info about Dr. Jim. He was/had a wealth of knowledge about the BP replica revolver world. I have purchased two of his cased sets from OC, one of which was the Dance .36 SN C00013, one of 35 produced by Pietta.

Please keep us informed about the book. I believe it would be worth its weight in gold if it ever comes to fruition.

Again, thank you!

Regards,

Jim

 

[RoyLOak]

Roy,

Thank you very much for the info about Dr. Jim. He was/had a wealth of knowledge about the BP replica revolver world. I have purchased two of his cased sets from OC, one of which was the Dance .36 SN C00013, one of 35 produced by Pietta.

Please keep us informed about the book. I believe it would be worth its weight in gold if it ever comes to fruition.

Again, thank you!

Regards,

Jim

Congratulations on those Dance revolvers, Jim! I actually just got off the phone with Dr. Davis' nephew and we are making arrangements for him to get to me all the files from Dr. Davis' research including Bill Edwards' research notes that Mrs. Edwards had given to Dr. Davis. I will keep all informed as to the progress of the book.

 

[expat_alaska]

Thank you very much, sir! I would love to have a copy of that book if/when it comes to fruition.

Regards,

Jim

 

[Ephraim Kibbey]

I spoke with the October Country owner today and he said that he still had over 100 items to post. He mentioned an Uberti "COTL" barrel addressed 1860 (I have only seen Uberti Walkers with this attempt to circumvent the Colt name.) I offered $200 and he said he was thinking more like $450. He also said he had a number of Bill Edwards items but was having trouble pricing them. I noticed that they have posted a cased Numis Gallery Wells Fargo Commemorative by Uberti with the correct barrel address and the "W.F. & Co." stamp on the butt for $500. This is one of the few Ubertis with the Colt barrel address. This is the way commemoratives should be done as true replicas with the correct markings instead of all the gold wash (IMHO.)

 

[RoyLOak]

I spoke with the October Country owner today and he said that he still had over 100 items to post. He mentioned an Uberti "COTL" barrel addressed 1860 (I have only seen Uberti Walkers with this attempt to circumvent the Colt name.) I offered $200 and he said he was thinking more like $450. He also said he had a number of Bill Edwards items but was having trouble pricing them. I noticed that they have posted a cased Numis Gallery Wells Fargo Commemorative by Uberti with the correct barrel address and the "W.F. & Co." stamp on the butt for $500. This is one of the few Ubertis with the Colt barrel address. This is the way commemoratives should be done as true replicas with the correct markings instead of all the gold wash (IMHO.)

Yes, Ephraim, I have discussed those Uberti "COTL" revolvers with October Country and also in a Facebook Group before. It seems Cimarron had those stamped that way to circumvent the fact that Colt Industries would not let them use the "official" Colt address stamp. I had discussed that with Cimarron some time back and that is what they indicated to me. October Country will be listing the Bill Edwards items as a set to keep the collection together since they include the Rigarmi prototype for the "1960 New Army" when Rigarmi was trying to get Centennial to go with them for the "New Army" revolver rather than FAUL. The set includes the 4 revolvers Rigarm sent to Bill Edwards with his name spelled EDUARDS in the stamping. I think there is the Remington New Model Army, an 1960 Army, a Model 1851 Navy Brass with engraved cylinder, and a Schneider & Glassick that Dr. Davis eluded to in hs Schneider and Glassick article on his web site. I agree on all the "gold wash"!!

 

[LonesomePigeon]

Sorry to hear about Dr. Davis. I am glad his work is being continued.

 

[perldog007]

Remy1858,

Grab some popcorn and sit down.


Here is my donor Leech & Rigdon:

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Just for grins, here is my parts-changer fantasy 1851 Navy .36 Second Model Belt Dragoon:

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Good luck in your endeavors!

Regards,

Jim

I don't think we can be close friends until you 3d print and install a crimson trace laser grip for your belt dragoon AND get it hard chrome plated. Until then you get Folgers and Cutty Sark if you drop in unannounced. #forafact
that Navy is the coolest thing ever. I like putting the navy cylinder and bbl on the Army frame and grip to confuse folks who think the 'confederate .44 Navy' was a real brass gun in the Civil War... I tell them it's a Calvary Navy for better grip on horse back. My horse 'stuff' is as good as PIetta's no?
Here you are with the game at a whole other level. So I'm inclined to be jealous and salty for a couple of days

 

[perldog007]

Jim, are those brass backstraps on the Dance model any concern for 'full power' loads in the current .44 version? I like that grip very much.

 

[expat_alaska]

I can't imagine why that would be a concern. The only reasons Colt made steel (iron) backstraps were:

1.) For the London market as the Brits did not like the appearance of brass backstraps or trigger guards

2.) For use with the shoulder stock on the 1848 Dragoon, 1860 Army, and the 1861 Navy (rare) because brass was too soft for long term use at the clamp recess on the bottom of the backstrap.

 

[Old Stumpy]

It is interesting to note that an early Spanish investor in the company was a Mr. Alejandro Songe.
Had he not withdrawn his considerable funds, the company might have been known as:

"Songe & Dance Brothers"

An interesting, if not confidence-inspiring company name.