Darn Kids these days have it good regarding CCW Options

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When I started carrying CCW. This did not exist yet.

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When I first started carrying, the Clinton AWB was still in full swing. Back then your options while not limited, were what would be considered primitive by today's standards. RDS/MOS was fiction for the most part. A Gucci Gun was a dehorned 1911 Commander or a S&W 3913. Micro subcompact like the Ruger LCP or even the pocketable 9mms like the M&P Shield, G43, and XDS were non existent. Hell, the super subcompact doublestacks like the Hellcat or P365 weren't even on the drawing board.

Pocket pistol were relegated to .32 ACP and .25 Auto mostly like the LW Seecamp LWS32 or a Beretta Jetfire Also guns like the Colt 1903 and 1908 were popular.

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The biggest you could do was a S&W J-Frame in .38 Special or .357 Magnum as a pocket gun. But the .357 Magnum guns were all steel and heavyweights for pocket carry. An aluminum framed 642 were better options in .38 Special.

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They were more likely carried as IWB on a belt along with guns like the S&W 3913 and 6906, Colt Pocketlite, G26, Sig P230/232, Walther PPK/S, and Makarov.

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Those were the king of the concealed carry world at the time. Sig came out with the P239 and S&W came out with the 4040PD and that was considered amazing well for the era because it was a CCW piece that small in .40 S&W.

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Yeah, a surplus Cold War Eastern Bloc pistol was popular as a CCW piece in the late 90s and early 00s.

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That just gives you an idea of how things have changed. Today, a gun like a Makarov is looked at as a C&R piece meant to be a range toy. Not a serious CCW capable self defense carry piece.

Yeah, carrying fullsize duty guns was still a thing then like now. But most quality holsters for CCW were leather, not kydex. Also, guns like a 4" Ruger GP100 or a 3" S&W Model 13 was still considered decent for carry.

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The advancements with carry guns is amazing. You kids today don't know how good you have it. Super reliable micro .380s that are lighter than their contemporaries that used to be .32 or .25 autos. And the amazing thing is how cheap they are. A LWS32 was a hand crafted hunk of steel and it was famous for being as small as it was as a .32 Auto, and now we have the Ruger LCP which is polymer (lighter in weight) and it is a .380 Auto. Also the LWS32 had a one year wait time.

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Scandium framed .38 Special and .357 Magnum J-Frames, Micro pocketable 9mm pistols, Red Dot equipped G19s, and so much more.

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Seriously.... I dig through my Army Footlocker of holsters and I'm flabbergasted at how it has evolved. I still have CCW holsters for my guns, but honestly. They've mostly been retired. The guns I now usually carry are a LCP in a pocket holster, a S&W 342 in a OWB, or a G17 in a Kydex IWB. My leather has been retired. My 1911s, S&W 3rd Gens, Steel Framed Wheel Guns, etc have been retired to the safe and I rarely carry them these days.

Eventually I spring for a Glock with a RDS. But right now I'm focusing on other things. But the fact that such a thing is now commonplace and an option is absolutely amazing.

Additionally, the market support for CCW is phenomenal. So many choices in clothing and holsters. You can get pants, belts, shirts, etc meant for CCW and it isn't a custom one piece you had your local seamstress make.

Again, you kids today don't know how lucky you have it.
 
Even for someone in their mid 30s such as myself..things have really changed. First the 365 changed everything, then the Hellcat came along..almost spoiled for choice in a small 9mm that could handle 10+ rounds.. I carried a Kahr CW380 and LC9 for deep concealment at the time, the Glock 26 was a popular backup gun, but these little high cap micros are even easier to carry IMO.
 
I would argue that the 90 year old Walther PPK in 7.65 mm is still a perfect EDC carry gun as far as form, fit, and function and btw more gun than you're ever likely to need. No way anything ever feels better....except maybe a 1903. Us old folk had it better than the kids do nowadays by far re guns.
 
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Even for someone in their mid 30s such as myself..things have really changed. First the 365 changed everything, then the Hellcat came along..almost spoiled for choice in a small 9mm that could handle 10+ rounds.. I carried a Kahr CW380 and LC9 for deep concealment at the time, the Glock 26 was a popular backup gun, but these little high cap micros are even easier to carry IMO.

This is true. I got my CCW permit right about the time the LCP hit the market, and I remember how difficult it was to obtain .380 ammo during that time because EVERYBODY was buying an LCP. I can't exactly call the LCP innovative since the Kel-tec came first, but a light, reliable, small pocket 380 was changing the conceal carry world before my very eyes. I also remember being perplexed as to why there weren't many 9mm single stack options back then when everybody was carrying fat Glock's or M&P's. This was all just 10 short years ago, and look at how options have exploded since then.
 
I remember joining this forum 15 years ago wondering which $150 surplus pistol I might be using for ccw if it was ever allowed in our state.
 
I started carrying an SP101 in 357. Then a 642 in 38 special. Then an XDs in 45. And now a Sig P38 in 9mm and a P30SK of the same cartridge. I may add a Hellcat.

Yes, things have gotten better. My truck is nicer than ones from a long time ago also.
 
I agree. I had to carry five pounds of 1911, spare mags and ammo in the snow and freezing rain. Uphill with the wind in my face all way to school. And back.
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I remember taking guns to school as well, and I’m pushing 40. Got to love rural America, sadly even in rural America those days are over.
 
I remember taking guns to school as well, and I’m pushing 40. Got to love rural America, sadly even in rural America those days are over.
I grew up in urban Miami and I took guns to school. Hell, I brought in a Japanese Nambu my Grandfather mysteriously had for a history project. Mind you, he never served in the US Military (Cuban Navy) so getting one through military service wouldn't be it. I guess someone couldn't pay and they gave him the Nambu as collateral.
 
Not just kids but some of us ‘late bloomers’. Really not interested in guns until about 4 years ago, at a ‘young’ 66YO. Son took me shooting and the variety was amazing as I ‘got into it’. But also kinda a pain..as I go thru bouts of ‘gun fever’. Almost too many choices.....:)
 
I started carrying in the early 70’s. By the 90’s things were advancing with the growing movement of CCW, huge holster improvements and options and some better guns.

As a young man not wearing jackets, and fashion was mandatory tucked shirts and Levi’s, I had to resort to a 38 derringer pocket carry. I would never consider that now. I don’t know if there was even a dedicated pocket holster back then.

In the 80’s I moved over to a PPK. About the time supply was finally catching up on the Seecamp 32, for me, Kel-Tec usurped the tiny 32 with the P-12 in ‘95. Things finally got Perfect when the Rohrbaugh R9 came out in 2004. Then things got even better in the last few years.

Yes sir, I agree, CCW choices are much better now.

I want to stress, I’m talking pocket carry here.

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My start in the 70’s ^^^^

80’s improvement vvvvv

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I didn’t carry my Seecamp for long after the P-12 came out. vvvvv

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13.5 ounces of 9mm perfect pocket carry! vvvvv

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Today even better! vvvvv

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I didn't start carrying until 2008, which coincided with my 21st birthday and the passage of my state's shall-issue law. Even in that time, we have seen tremendous changes. The biggest was the advent of subcompact concealed-carry pistols in service calibers, culminating in the S&W M&P Shield. The Sig P365 was the next sea change, with the double-stack magazine the width of a traditional single-stack.

Previous to that, I'd say the Kahr K9 was one of the first true CCW innovations.
 
I agree. I had to carry five pounds of 1911, spare mags and ammo in the snow and freezing rain. Uphill with the wind in my face all way to school. And back.
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Gotcha beat. I once had to carry 7 1911's on me, two in UM84 holsters, (R &L) the other five IWB with "CIA" paracord holsters, made on the spot. We didn't have a weapons locker that we could correctly secure them in, and most of the officers didn't want to carry them on that FTX.
 
Started out carrying an Astra Model 600 in a G.I. M8 shoulder holster, under an M65 Field Jacket. Soon I graduated to something much smaller and infinitely more comfortable: a Charter Arms Undercover. In a small semi-auto I found a Kahr CM9 to be just the ticket in an IWB holster. Likewise in a similar IWB set-up my S&W Model 638 makes for a nice lightweight snubby. And for true pocket carry the KelTec P3AT can't be beat.
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The .38 Snubbie is still capable. Especially as a CCW piece when made out of Scandium.
In regards to a J frame, I *personally* prefer a 3" barrel and a steel frame. More an IWB piece than a pocket piece. I find the alloy/exotic frames difficult to shoot after a handful of rounds.
 
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