I assume then that if the USA someday bans all gun ownership that you'll suppress your beliefs in the RKBA and not only turn in all your guns but also snitch on your buddies who haven't turned in their guns.
Do you expect the church to start checking passports at the doors -- or should the priests ban all poor Hispanics from Mass because "everyone knows" they're all illegal?
There are millions of legal Hispanics immigrants in the D.C. area, but you know for sure -- based on a couple trips to Mass when visiting the folks -- that all the people from that neighborhood are all illegal. Yeah, the church should stop that bus even if many of the people in that neighborhood are legals. Heaven forbid that some illegals might -- dare I utter it lest it's true -- get to Church. Hide the children!
For the millions of legal Hispanics? Horrors!
You're kidding, right? At your folks' Church, they pray for the safety of all people regardless of their sins or law breaking. Yeah even though some of the "migrant workers" are legal, it's better to pray for none of them lest some of those illegals get covered by the prayer. Or, better yet, maybe the prayers should have caveats. "...except for the illegals, Lord. Smite them, Oh Heavenly Father." That should do it. God wouldn't get confused then.
Just say “NO” to rewarding illegal immigrants.
Immigrants filled 44 percent of new jobs created from 1990 to 2001, and filled one in four technical, managerial or professional job, plus had an above-average share of the nation's jobs in engineering, computer science and the physical sciences.
You are right that (some) churches are bad on the RKBA. That doesn't change the fact that you're out of line for berating churches that <gasp> show compassion to sinners and law breakers (regardless of the law).
Therefore I expect you to "render unto Ceasar" if the USA bans all guns.
If they are breaking the law, yes. (Within reason, of course. Letting kids drink wine is breaking the law, but we're talking about more serious crimes.)
Again, I ask you:
So you won't address the point of whether you'll suppress your beliefs and follow a gun ban to the tee. "Render unto Ceasar" and all that. OK, I'll give you a pass and let that point drop.
I never suggested otherwise. You and I probably are in close agreement about illegal immigration. We aren't in agreement about whether churches are breaking laws when showing illegal immigrants "compassion."
Really? How do you know that?
Wow. You really missed the point. Here, I'll spell it out.
According to Koelemay
Which goes back to “Some Virginians should feel chagrined that Virginia businesses, political leaders and educational institutions couldn't respond faster and more efficiently to secure more of these new job opportunities for Virginians.”
Yes, I know that -- and I agreed (in post #35) that if Churches are actually breaking the law, they should be held legally responsible.
Actually, I never claimed one way or the other. I even agreed (in post #35) that if churches are breaking the law, they should be held legally responsible -- and thus I acknowledged the possibility that some churches are committing illegal acts related to immigration.
Translation, "Other people are bad when they place their beliefs above the law, but I'm good and brave."
Thank you for admitting that you have no evidence to back up your allegations. Maybe churches are committing illegal acts. Maybe they're not. But you don't really know.
The point is that you have a double standard.
This isn't really a religious discussion. You alleged illegal activity by organizations (that happen to be religious), and I've asked you to support your allegations with evidence. I'd ask for the same evidence if you leveled your allegations against the ACLU, the NRA, the Boy Scouts, Wal-Mart, the Libertarian Party or the Oak Street Cat Lovers Club.
We were specifically asked to pray that they were not mistreated by their coyotes and others they met during their journey one year. I doubt many legal migrant workers deal with coyotes.
