Deafening Silence on New Jersey Magazine 10 Rd Cap

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The legislation was passed on May 22. The Governor has 45 days to veto or it automatically becomes law. 45 days would be July 5.

Keep contacting the Governor.
 
Am I suppossed to act surprised that NJ is run by a bunch of criminal tyrants?

Sorry, I'm all out of "surprised" you'll have to settle for "disgust".
 
If he was going to veto it he wouldn't wait.
Might be buying some political capital with it. If he does let it go through he'll lose the POTUS nomination. I have heard he's kind of a left leaner when it comes to gun control issues. If he does have POTUS ambitions he'll veto it at the last minute for the media coverage.
 
The party establishment wants him. They proved the last two elections that they don't think they need gun owners to vote for them.
 
He'll be able to say straight-faced afterward that he never signed it into law, but won't tick off its supporters --sounds like a win-win for any politician ;)

TCB
 
+1 to what Bexar said.

Keep contacting the Governor and let him know how we think.



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If Governor Christi has any dreams of getting conservatives all over the U.S. to support a presidential bid on his part, he had best squash that bill like a bug. He may be able to BS New Jersey gun owners, but the rest of us aint buying it.:uhoh:
 
He has several other crazy bills the legislature has passed to veto, too. My guess is he vetoes the whole pile of bills at once, at the end of this week. The faux outrage over his vetoing the mag bill gets lost in the faux outrage about vetoing all the other bills.
 
Barnbwt is correct

He can easily sidestep this issue by saying he didn't sign off on it but would not stand in the way of the will of the people (I retched when I typed it..lol)

Don't worry about Christie aspirations for POTUS...not even a dim thought - he is part of that NY NJ boss regime. They don't run for president. why step down or expose ones self to that scrutiny ? ;)
 
Speaking as a resident of a state where 1 party controls the executive branch and another controls to legislature its not at all uncommon for the governor to wait til the last possible minute to veto. Not sure how things work in Jersey but in MO the legislature is only in session for a small portion of the yr so this prevents the issue from coming up again, and gives less time for the legislature to attempt an override.
 
I think 2nd Amendment issues in general are more a geographic thing than a political party thing. Certain parts of the country, like NY/NJ/CT as well as the west coast states, plus many large cities are anti-2nd Amendment, anti-gun whether they are Democrat or Republican. Here in IL the gun issues are a rural vs. Chicago matter, not a Dem vs Rep matter. To some degree we are becoming, or have already become two nations; one supporting gun rights and one opposed. When I travel from IL to Texas I feel like I have never left the USA. When I travel from IL to NY to visit family, I feel like I am still in the USA as I pass through IN, OH, and PA, then have left the USA as I enter NJ and NY.
 
plus many large cities are anti-2nd Amendment, anti-gun whether they are Democrat or Republican

Examples?

Can't think of any Democrat run cities that aren't anti-gun. Houston and Dallas can't do anything because of State pre-emption laws, but they certainly have tried.
 
Can't think of any Democrat run cities that aren't anti-gun. Houston and Dallas can't do anything because of State pre-emption laws, but they certainly have tried.

Seattle is the same way. They have been trying for many years for all kinds of gun control. They have a Dem mayor as most large cities do. Guess it has something to do with the liberal mindset of the urban dweller.
 
I wish I could be more specific but I know there are some cities upstate NY that have Republican mayors but are still anti-gun. At the national level the gun control issue can be assessed as a party matter, i.e., Democrats support gun control as a party, and Republicans oppose gun control as a party, despite some individuals on either side not taking the party line. But at a local level, where the Dems are still mostly anti-gun, it is not always a political party issue but may be more of an urban/rural issue.
 
If Christie ever ever has any ambitions toward running for president, under a Republican ticket, he has to veto that bill. He'd never get anywhere if he didn't.
 
Well just emailed him but not being his constituent doesn't make as much of a difference I wouldn't think.

Good luck guys. And remember, your Rights cannot be taken from you, you can only give them up.
 
Just got the NRA-ILA legislative alert that Christie VETOED IT!!!!!!!

Too late for me. He lost his chance at any support from me on a national level by waiting to veto it. Actions speak loudly...procrastinating on something this politically important to me is a political death knell on my support. It tells me his intentions are, at best, ambiguous on this matter.

From Wikipedia:

"Christie has said that each state has the right to determine firearms laws and that the federal government should not interfere in the making of guns laws for New Jersey. When announcing his candidacy in 2009 he said supported strict and aggressive enforcement of the state's current gun laws. In 2013 he chose not to defend a legal challenge to the state's most stringent gun law which requires individuals to prove an urgent threat of violence before getting permits to carry handguns."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Christie#Guns


The last two sentences are polar opposites. On the one hand, he wants to strictly and aggressively enforce all his state's current laws. Then he chooses NOT to defend a challenge to the state law to prove an urgent threat before getting a carry permit.

This, combined with other factors such as waiting until pretty much the last minute on vetoing this new law on magazine limitations, tells me he's at best wishy-washy on RKBA issues. At worse, he's an outright liar who's only playing the political field to whatever advantage he can get, which means he's a back-stabber.

I can deal with someone who's on firm ground. I don't want to deal with back-stabbers.
 
I love the way he vetoed it, too!

http://www.northjersey.com/news/christie-vetoes-bill-limiting-capacity-of-gun-magazines-1.1044897

“This is the very embodiment of reform in name only,” Christie said. “It simply defies common sense to believe that imposing a new and entirely arbitrary number of bullets that can be lawfully loaded into a firearm will somehow eradicate, or even reduce, future instances of mass violence.”

With his veto Christie removed all of the language related to the ammunition limits and instead replaced it with five mental health proposals. Among his recommendations is requiring a person previously involuntarily committed to mental health treatment to provide “adequate medical evidence” before being approved for a firearms purchaser identification card.
 
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