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I'm using two this season, my Savage 11 and my AR-10, both in .308
Your problem with bloodshot meat is the bullet not the caiber I discovThe title is clear enough I think ... one rifle to rule them all.
Rifle season is almost here in MT. Last year I shot three big critters and one smaller one using a Tikka T3 TAC chambered in .300 Win Mag (Federal Trophy Copper 180gr) with no runners but more bloodshot meat than I'd like, so this year I'll be using this custom Kimber chambered in .308 Win. It'll shoot Federal Trophy Copper 150gr and 165gr ammunition into 5-shot sub 5/8" groups and a Barnes LRX 175gr hand load into 1/2" or better groups.
With 5+1 rounds of Federal Trophy Copper 150gr the entire package as shown below is under 10lb which is good in my book. A 10-round magazine loaded to capacity will put it just over 10lb.
Easy to carry, easy to shoot, this rifle should be perfect for this hunting season. The only things that would significantly improve this rifle would be a Tikka or Sako action and a two-stage trigger.
Kimber 84M custom action
Proof 24" barrel
AG Composites carbon fiber stock
CDI Precison custom bottom metal
MAGPUL PMAG 5 7.62 AC
TriggerTech trigger
SilencerCo Omega suppressor
ASR brake and adapter
MAGPUL MS1 QDM sling
Vortex Viper PST 4-16x50mm F1
Nightforce Ultralight rings
EGW 30 MOA rail
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It's not the caliber, but the bullet that causes bloodshot meat, I use Winchester Power Points, they will create far less of it than any other bullet brand I have used, taking neck shots, behind front shoulders shots is best in my experience of taking a large # of game animals, expect full penetration, ln one side out the other, dropped where standing, I've never had to track any animal I have shot. Give full credit to the Win PP, complaints about full penetration, what does it matter dead is dead, but I have spent hours tracking other hunters wounded animals, found everyone with one exception, hunter using 7MM Rem Mag 175 grn Corelokt bullet shot large spike bull Elk he followed blood trial for 25 miles, then I picked it up for another five miles before realizing exactly where the Bull would cross the Klickitat River " Parrots Crossing " , to late to follow became to dark to see, returned next morning, small island in middle of river, 3 bears eating carcass.The title is clear enough I think ... one rifle to rule them all.
Rifle season is almost here in MT. Last year I shot three big critters and one smaller one using a Tikka T3 TAC chambered in .300 Win Mag (Federal Trophy Copper 180gr) with no runners but more bloodshot meat than I'd like, so this year I'll be using this custom Kimber chambered in .308 Win. It'll shoot Federal Trophy Copper 150gr and 165gr ammunition into 5-shot sub 5/8" groups and a Barnes LRX 175gr hand load into 1/2" or better groups.
With 5+1 rounds of Federal Trophy Copper 150gr the entire package as shown below is under 10lb which is good in my book. A 10-round magazine loaded to capacity will put it just over 10lb.
Easy to carry, easy to shoot, this rifle should be perfect for this hunting season. The only things that would significantly improve this rifle would be a Tikka or Sako action and a two-stage trigger.
Kimber 84M custom action
Proof 24" barrel
AG Composites carbon fiber stock
CDI Precison custom bottom metal
MAGPUL PMAG 5 7.62 AC
TriggerTech trigger
SilencerCo Omega suppressor
ASR brake and adapter
MAGPUL MS1 QDM sling
Vortex Viper PST 4-16x50mm F1
Nightforce Ultralight rings
EGW 30 MOA rail
View attachment 1024830
Your problem with bloodshot meat is the bullet not the caiber I discov
It's not the caliber, but the bullet that causes bloodshot meat, I use Winchester Power Points, they will create far less of it than any other bullet brand I have used, taking neck shots, behind front shoulders shots is best in my experience of taking a large # of game animals, expect full penetration, ln one side out the other, dropped where standing, I've never had to track any animal I have shot. Give full credit to the Win PP, complaints about full penetration, what does it matter dead is dead, but I have spent hours tracking other hunters wounded animals, found everyone with one exception, hunter using 7MM Rem Mag 175 grn Corelokt bullet shot large spike bull Elk he followed blood trial for 25 miles, then I picked it up for another five miles before realizing exactly where the Bull would cross the Klickitat River " Parrots Crossing " , to late to follow became to dark to see, returned next morning, small island in middle of river, 3 bears eating carcass.
You sure did hit the nail on the head, my feelings exactly even tho I use to hunt big canyons, sit on one side glass the other, find animal then stalk up close, seems animals don't look up, they do always check back trail tho so never follow it.At one time people managed to kill animals with flintlocks. Somehow the Indians managed to survive using spears and bows. Today you need to stick together a few thousand dollars worth of gadgets to do it. 600 yard shots? You would have to be a really lousy hunter if that is as close as you can get. It must be a city guy thing.
Hangup of boots on the ground hating snipers in WWl and WWll and Korea, but he is right, you sir, are a sniper, ñot a Hunter, first mule deer I shot was taken in the Blue Mountains in Washington State, according to a topographic map and a Forrest service ranger the shot was 1.5 miles long, did not believe me, returned with him next day showed him and my footprints where I was sitting, where deer was standing, just shook his head, next day he bought a M70 .338 Win Mag, personally when I discovered the true distance of my shot, not proud, but really up set, never shot at any animal beyond 250 yards ever again. Rifle Winchester M70 .338 Magnum, Win cases, 77 grns H4831, 200 grn PP bullet, 3000+ fps across my Oehler 35 P Chronograph, 1/8" below horizontally cross hair On Leupold 6×20×44mm scope set on 20×, dead on at 450 yards, 100' tape measured distance, trust me it's a LONG LONG distance, almost like being in another time zone. 600 yards, weeeeelll, OK??? Me, I will stay at 250, no sight adjustment needed.Yep, I figured it'd just be a matter of time before some small brained, know-it-all, tough guy troll showed up. If you don't like the idea of real-world hunting where getting close isn't always an option you're always free to enjoy your flintlock, bow or rock. Knock yourself out ... literally!
Read my earlier post about the Rem 7MM Magnum & 175 grn Corelokt bullets, after following a bloody trail for 30 mi. All the hunter achieved was making bear food, and yes it was 30 miles, how the hell much blood do Elk contain???If i have to shoot an elk at 600 yards I’m taking a Remington 700 in 7mm Rem Mag. With a 14x scope.
That gave me the best laugh all week, but you forgot the Ml Al Abrams tank to carry it, didn't you????I am using a larger rifle since last year:
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My new 23mm anti-materiel rifle can successfully engage quadrupedal animals out to 3000 meters and utilizes high explosive incendiary ammunition, removing the need to butcher and cook them. I wonder what the Taylor’s one shot stop knocking down power is for a 23x152mm shell? Hopefully it’s “enuff gun” for Bambi and crew?
You sure did hit the nail on the head, my feelings exactly even tho I use to hunt big canyons, sit on one side glass the other, find animal then stalk up close, seems animals don't look up, they do always check back trail tho so never follow it.
first mule deer I shot was taken in the Blue Mountains in Washington State, according to a topographic map and a Forrest service ranger the shot was 1.5 miles long, did not believe me, returned with him next day showed him and my footprints where I was sitting, where deer was standing, just shook his head,
Easy peasy, just look on the Hanford Nuclear Energy Reservation, last time I did while riding my Harley-Davidson FLHT Standard I did see a herd of about 155 Elk, they live there year around, one BIG BULL an Imperial 8×9 was a sight to see. However I understand trespassing gives you 10 years in prison, $250000 fine plus confiscation of everything you own. Still wonder why those Elkies stay there year round????? For a LESS COSTLY view of Elk just go to Packwood, Washington, US#12 goes through town, I believe about 100 Elk live there pretty much year around, they sleep in town square, in city park, ally's, people's lawns. It's a wonder Biden doesn't increase our National Debt another one trillion$$$$$$ to build homes for them to live in cuz it gets down right cold in the Wintertime. Oh, Oh, wait, he's already got it incuded in his $$$$$5 trillion dollar so called infrastructure plan, if he didn't PETA would be suing him in SCOTUS!!!!Remington 700 classic in .308 Winchester, 180 grain Federal Premium Nosler Partitions, Leupold VX 3 scope. I hope I see a bull elk!
Guess what, I DO live in the WEST, so dry Jackrabbits carry water bottles with them ( yeah, I know it's a stretch ), I have hunted all over the State of Washington, as a " bird dog " in Southeastern Oregon, Idaho, Utah ( family members live there ) and parts of Nevada. Don't know the West??? What kind of " Wacky Tabbacky " are you smoking??? Never said I tracked the spike Elk Bull 30 miles, I started tracking it the LAST FIVE MILES, make a trip to where I live, I'll give you a personal tour from where it was shot to ending as dinner for 3 bears. My mule deer gladly, from sitting to deer standing, bullet center punched one rib bone clipped left lung stopped in center of heart. Lead nose very little flattening shown, could have used it again. Taking a trip there again, can't, Clinton & Tree Huggers turned the region into no trespassing roadless wilderness area. Stopped and ended probably the finest mule deer hunting in the entire USA. The bucks grow antlers to nigh on the size of Roosevelt Elk, plus their body size is incredible. Forest Service Official said soil has minerals content high enough to give mule deer nutrition to grow big and antlers as well.Clearly another member who has no clue about hunting out west but who has tracked an elk 30 miles and shot a deer 1.5 miles away.
This tells me pretty much all I need to know. Thanks for the clarification.
Man that's about a perfect hunting rifle you got there.The only gun I own in that category. A Ruger 77 Hawkeye in .280 Rem. View attachment 1035100
If you hunt mule deer how many miles do you walk each day??? A considerable distance?? You must enjoy a lot of wasted time?? Way I hunt ( main reason I canyon hunt ) is find a HIGH POINT set myself down and start glassing for anything white, mule deer have BIG WHITE rear ends that show up like a flashing beacon lite, easy to see with 20× bino's, see one the stalk is on. As a tad bit of info, trail walking, see a spider thread level in front of you, look close at each end, 90% chance you will see a TICK hanging on one end. Tye Valley, Oregon is crawling with the Ticks, never hunt there any more.Clearly another member who has no clue about hunting out west but who has tracked an elk 30 miles and shot a deer 1.5 miles away.
This tells me pretty much all I need to know. Thanks for the clarification.
I am really interested in seeing what the S20 in 6.5 PRC will do with 127gr LRX loads and perhaps next year trying it on deer.
I dropped off the head to the taxidermist yesterday for a full shoulder mount. Seems like I'll be able to pick up my elk from last year sometime in December. That's the problem with a really good taxidermist whose work is in high demand ... you have to wait 12 to 14 months to get the mount back, but that's ok.
not goodSo true.
I haven't gotten mine back from last season yet. Took my son's first buck into him over the weekend and he apologized for the delay. He committed to do them both at the same time, so Nature Boy Jr is getting his turned around in 2 weeks.
Yep, I've done my share of those "long walks" (and steep climbs) while elk hunting. There are wapiti around here, and I've killed a few of them in my almost 60 years of big game hunting. However, even though I'll go along with "a lot more walking than shooting in elk hunts," I'd like this thread better if it was titled, "Deer to elk 40 yards to 400 yards...what rifle are you grabbing this year?"There seems to be a lot more walking than shooting in elk hunts from what I gathered on this forum (no wapiti close to me). Long walks. So, long walks and 600 yards shooting