Defending Anarchy

[Tamara]

Apparently, some folks were unable to read this part on registering, so here's the large type version:

4.) Spamming, trolling, flaming, and personal attacks are prohibited. You can disagree with other members, even vehemently, but it must be done in a well-mannered form. Attack the argument, not the arguer.

 

[suijurisfreeman]

you're absolutely correct ....

bountyhunter,
You're absolutely correct, I don't date much! As a matter of fact the very reason that I got a divorce back in 1998 was because of my quest for freedom! My ex-wife didn't want to get out of the system, I made my decission that I was getting completely out, so I told her to file for a divorce. We owned (it was paid for) 43 acres in Michigan, house, cars everything, I signed it all over to her and walked away with only my personal stuff (all my own choice). That's how serious I'm about this freedom thingy! Contrary to what Sir Galahad posted, I actually do live what I've posted about! I've got court transcripts, witnesses, tape recordings, TV footage, newspaper accounts of my struggle to become free. What I have posted are not the ramblings of some madman, they're facts, period!

BigG,

The reason why I'm not at my property in Kentucky very much is really quite simple. My daughter (33) has been very sick since January of 2002, I've spent alot if not most of my time up here at her place in northern Indiana since May of 2002. I get home maybe once a month for 3-4 days. Her hospital/doctor bills have been well over $350,000 so it's not just for fun and games. My whole life has been put on hold, I should have completed my Earthship by now but I haven't had enough time to even get it started, let alone finished. Oh well, maybe soon!

And last but not least, Sir Galahad, why the hostility? I'm not a 'momma's boy' living at home, I'm a grown man, 55 years of age, I own my own property and everything I have is paid for! I've reared four children, as a matter of fact my youngest (26) was only 2 when I divorced his mother and reared him and his 2 brothers and sister by myself! Back in 1979 it was quite unusual for a father to get custody of his children - I did! And I did all that without any assistance for Big Brother's teat in my mouth! Never once did I take anything from any government agency, I did it on my own! Anything, and I do mean anything that I've posted on this forum or any other forum is the absolute truth, I don't just blow smoke up people's @$$, I actually live what I believe! And have for 10 years now! I have paid dearly for my freedom, but I would never consider going back, I'm free! Are you?

 

[rock jock]

Never once did I take anything from any government agency

Not all the benefits of living in this country are tangible. Some can only be measured by the bad things you don't experience as a result of their existence. So, the answer is, yes you have.

 

[Marko Kloos]

But with that consent comes the absolute right to demand that the society recognize and defend your rights, whatever they may be.

An interesting angle would be to explore whether the government has defaulted on that "social contract" when it not only fails to hold up its end of the bargain (the safeguarding and defending of my rights), but actively engages in denying me those rights (via gun control, asset forfeiture, and a zillion of other proactive measures).

Sure, I can try and change the system from within, but the government may use force to get me into compliance with the "social contract", while I can only use the glacially slow legal and legislative processes. I'd say that tilts the playing field greatly in favor one party to that contract.

 

[Baba Louie]

Ahhh... the "Social Contract"

Marko, I have been waiting for someone more intelligent than I to bring said concept to light in this thread.

Tangled into the weaving of our lives, lives the social agreement to forgo some of our freedoms and to cooperate with others (I like to think that most people in the US will stay on their side of the road)... but at what price?

Some people (very few) tend to "Do things without feeling the need for permission from higher ups or worry about their peers reaction", while others (the majority?) feel the need, the safety of having to ask for said permission prior to any action.

The consequences that are rendered by seeking permission prior vs. asking forgiveness after, if your actions truly "harm others" seems to be the main feature my Father taught and lived by. He taught the latter.

I personally don't remember signing a social contract whereby all that I create, or a large portion thereof, would be given away to others via automatic deposit.

Perchance that occured back in 1971 when I signed up for and received a small card with a number on it that clearly states "Not to be used for Identification purposes"

1 Chicken in 10?

More like 4 to 6 at a minimum.

Adios

 

[tyme]

If difference and, to some degree, mental anguish and oppression create the possibility of social progress, where on the state-power continuum do we want to be... oppressed by government, minimally oppressed by government and somewhat oppressed by criminals, or oppressed only by criminals?

In which society does scientific, social, literary, philosophical, and artistic progress occur more rapidly? If that's not our goal, what else is there? If that's not our goal, we should all go live in a shack like the unabomber and write hoplophobic treatises promoting the state of nature. Then when we're bored with that we can all start stealing from each other. Because if society and local communities have no sense of direction, in the absence of religion or morals for the sake of morals, the only thing of importance is self interest.

 

[Sgt]

4.) Spamming, trolling, flaming, and personal attacks are prohibited. You can disagree with other members, even vehemently, but it must be done in a well-mannered form. Attack the argument, not the arguer.

Tamara,

While I read the rules, it makes little difference how one argues on this forum.....no matter how one conducts oneself in a heated discussion, if they happen to have a different opinion than the "mods" then they are brow beat and lectured until they either conform to the socialistic flavor of the week, or you all throw then off of here. You can insult an individual while only dealing with the topic they so strongly support. And when this happens.....it's usually one of you mods, or your pocket protector buddies who's offended. And why.....because if you can't defend your position, the easist thing to do is get rid of the offender......too bad...that old line about "small people with big titles"......LOL Jeez, we wouldn't want to offend anyone, now would we? be fair and enforce the same rules for EVERYONE, or throw them away.....this little socialist experiment and power happy moderators will ruin this forum if you all don't get your ego's in check......

 

[LawDog]

Sgt,

if you don't like

this little socialist experiment

that is THR, by all means go somewhere else.

Nobody has nailed your feet to the floor, nobody is holding a gun to your head and making you come to The High Road.

If you aren't happy here -- leave.

In the meantime, due to major thread hi-jack, color this one closed.

LawDog
Power Mad Moderator,
First Chief Assistant Brow Beater, and
Small Person With Big Title, First Class.