Define "Anti"

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The label "Anti" is frequently used here. What does one need to believe or do to qualify as an "anti"? For example, if a person believes that laws restricting gun ownership are currently sufficient but none should be repealed either, are they an anti? Or if they believe a 5 day "cool off" period should be law but do not support prohibiting any further weapons, are they an anti? What if they simply oppose open carry or NFA items?

The term "anti" is often thrown around as though there are only two view points in regards to gun rights but the reality is far less black and white. So what defines an "anti"?
 
I would define the true "Anti" and the true "2A Supporter" to be ends of a spectrum. Thus, where you are on the spectrum, anyone further south from you is an "Anti".

Some of my beliefs have gotten me not exactly called an "Anti" here, but have met with reproach, because I believe in a system less restrictive than what we have now, but not completely unrestrictive.
 
To me it means someone who is against the public, at large, being able to posses a firearm. Not just carrying, a gun, but having access to one.
 
It's an emotional thing -- an "anti" is someone who viscerally doesn't like guns. Therefore, he won't be happy short of complete gun confiscation, regardless of what tactical compromises he's willing to accept in the meantime. So, I would say that being "anti" is a simple yes/no proposition rather than a relative term.
 
I use the term on here when I write to refer to indviduals who advocate, vote or are activists for, more restrictive firearms laws. Especially bans. And to refer to people who think in general that firearms are bad and that *I/we* shouldn't have them either.

The Brady Bunch, they're anti's, Ceasfire, bunch of anti's, Bill Ruger, he was an anti too.
 
It is a form of group steriotyping:

For example: If some people in society are too stupid to be trusted with a gun, then NOBODY can have one. (except the government of course) Anytime you are seen as part of a group, you are seen as no more compitent than the least common denominator or weakest link. Laws are not made for everybody, they are made for idiots and criminals and treat everyone with a gun as such.
 
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Bill Ruger, he was an anti too.
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That's a bit harsh. He certainly wasn't an anti, although he did them a great service. Those were dark days for gun rights, and all the momentum was on the side of the antis. They were winning. And it was looking like they'd just keep on winning. Some folks, like Ruger, felt that if anything was to be saved, some would have to be sacrificed. Politically, he was a useful idiot. He wasn't the only one, just a prominent one. Plenty of pro-gun folks were willing to give up the politically poisonous "assault weapons" or high-cap magazines if they thought it meant their walnut-stocked deer rifle or duck gun would be safe for a while.

He was a fool who thought it was possible to appease the monster. He was wrong. He forgot that we must all hang together, or assuredly, we shall all hang separately.

But he wasn't an anti.
 
There are some antis that come on to this website. They try to disguise themselves as pro gun but then their true side comes through. They will usually be ok with "reasonable common sense gun control". Some of them probably really are pro gun when compared to the really hard core antis. They are pro gun when it comes to protecting their little corner of the gun culture but believe all the rest of us need to compromise.

They are the "useful idiots" that will help the antis get a foothold and then wake up too late if they ever do wake up.

You can bet though that some true hard core antis do monitor this and other sites.:barf:
 
Define Anti ; a person who is opposed to a particular practice, party, policy, action, etc.

I would say that is each & everyone of us, I don`t know anybody that agrees with everything.
 
A true "anti" is someone that doesn't have the brains to realize that PEOPLE, not guns, cause crime.

The only law that makes any sense is the requirement to have a background check. That has kept guns away from criminals who knows how many times. Everything else though is completely worthless.


Police departments claim that their crooks have better firepower? Why don't they let their guys qualify with their own weapons and choose what they like? It saves the department money and cops are free to arm themselves from a 9mm to an M60. Problem solved.

If every legal citizen carried, how much crime do you think would still happen? Even if a couple people ganged up on one person, that person would still have other armed people around him to help.


An "anti" thinks that crooks will obey the rules.
 
The "Anti" label is more likely to get slapped on somebody if they refuse in a belligerent manner to have any sort of reasonable discussion about firearms, painting the subject with the broad brush of nobody needs a gun except police, I don't believe in guns, guns are designed only to kill, etc.

In rare instances one can convert an "anti" if they simply haven't been exposed to firearms aside from in the media and are willing to be open-minded and maybe come to a shooting range to see what the fuss is about. It's rare though, a lot of people stubbornly hold to an irrational fear of firearms rather than admit they may be misinformed. Sad but true.
 
I agree with Post #5.

Last year at this time my wife said we'd never have firearms in the house. This year we're getting trying to decide if the 10 year old gets a daisy or a Crickett. People can be 'reformed'. ;)
 
This discussion brings to mind George Carlin:

“Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?”
― George Carlin*





*note: In the spirit of full disclosure, this quote has also been cited as belonging to Ronnie Corbett.

So anyone who believes in MORE restrictions than I do is "Anti" and anyone who believes in FEWER restrictions than I do is an Anarchist.
 
an·ti
   [an-tahy, an-tee]
noun, plural -tis.
a person who is opposed to anything I say, do or think.


That's a lot of folks.
 
The only law that makes any sense is the requirement to have a background check. That has kept guns away from criminals who knows how many times.
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Well, that's just it, we cannot know how many times. All the "deny" does at this point is prevent a sale for some reason. That reason is not necessarily because the putative buyer is a criminal.

Further, just because a sale passes background check does not make it legal, or the recipient a non-criminal. Just do a search on "straw purchase" to see how few understand just that one aspect of the law.
 
ttolhurst said:
That's a bit harsh. He certainly wasn't an anti, although he did them a great service. Those were dark days for gun rights, and all the momentum was on the side of the antis. They were winning. And it was looking like they'd just keep on winning. Some folks, like Ruger, felt that if anything was to be saved, some would have to be sacrificed. Politically, he was a useful idiot. He wasn't the only one, just a prominent one. Plenty of pro-gun folks were willing to give up the politically poisonous "assault weapons" or high-cap magazines if they thought it meant their walnut-stocked deer rifle or duck gun would be safe for a while.

He was a fool who thought it was possible to appease the monster. He was wrong. He forgot that we must all hang together, or assuredly, we shall all hang separately.

But he wasn't an anti.
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Bill "I never meant for simple civilians to have my 20 or 30 round magazines or my folding stock" Ruger wasn't an anti? If you think that something is right and have to hide it, you must not think that it is actually right.
 
Bill ruger may not have been a true anti, but he was a sellout, a traitorous vermin, and the Neville Chamberlain of our cause.
But Bill's treachery was not an unheard of practice among the major manufacturers, for it was they who in 1968 supported the GCA and it's import restrictions of affordable arms.

And so to keep this on topic, a true anti aims to destroy the right to self defense and the means thereof, unlike Ruger who was simply in it for the money.
 
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