Detained for his choice in music!!

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manedwolf said:
Please do America a favor. Read all of the Federalist Papers. Read all the documents that we've fought for. And revise your opinion, or please tear up the papers and cancel your oath-taking appointment right now. You've not yet learned what it's all about.
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I haven't yet learned what it was all about would be more correct. But let's not get pedantic with semantics.
This is not your Grandfather's America. That much I do know.
 
I agree with Mandewolf. You should really take a hard look at what you are saying here. There are a bunch of folks in this country that feel the same way we do.

I have a friend from South Africa that would say the same thing--that no harm was done-- but I guess when you come from that, it's all you know so it somehow makes it okay. Well, it ain't okay, and yes, this is still my grandfather's America. Letting people like you come over with that attitude is not helping.

Greg
 
Folks, lighten up, please. This did not happen in the US and our rules do not apply. This is an example of a major cultural difference, and some of you are giving real_name a hard time for explaining the culture.
I applaud real_name for having the foresight to come to the US, and congratulate him for attaining citizenship.
I understand that some of you don't understand the cultural difference, but please don't shoot the messenger, OK?
 
But if he'd been caught mugging an old lady, he'd have been let off with a verbal warning, apparently.
 
Folks, lighten up, please. This did not happen in the US and our rules do not apply. This is an example of a major cultural difference, and some of you are giving real_name a hard time for explaining the culture.
I applaud real_name for having the foresight to come to the US, and congratulate him for attaining citizenship.
I understand that some of you don't understand the cultural difference, but please don't shoot the messenger, OK?
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There we go, eh?
There are many reasons why I chose to be an American. Not least was wanting to live as an equal in the world's greatest democracy, the world's greatest country.
I know I'm different and my cultural background has probably left lifelong scars that some here find reprehensible, but remember I do come from a quasi-socialist society (free healthcare etc) so it's to be expected IMO.
Maybe when I've been here as long as some of you and I'm still saying dross like we should have government cameras in the bedroom then you can poke me with the sharp sticks, but presently I'm just off the boat (well, 4 years) and still struggling enough with the way you (y'all) have managed to corrupt my mother tongue, put the sticks down that was a joke.
Just be glad you are importing pro-gun voters, I think the NRA should be given the names of all recent citizens as they are probably very open to the cause.

Now, I agree to disagree, it's a lot easier than shadow boxing with people I have no fight with.
If you see me being crazy in a thread again just let it go, and I'll let it go when people say that 'limeys' are spineless.
:)
 
Just think of some of the other clash songs the could have been singing.

Hate and war
guns of brixton
spanish bombs
english civil war
tommy gun
police and thieves
police on my back
clampdown

Joe was a great song writer. RIP

Would they have thought him guilty of murder if he was singing Folsom prison blues by the man in black?


Rancid, Rage against the machine, Dire straits, and a lot of other would be bad to sing a long to in a public place.

Remind me not to go to england. It would not be good.


They used London calling in a Bond movie, a Friends, and in of all things a jaguar comerical. And this is a sign of a terrorist.


"now get this
London calling, yes I was there too
An' you know what they said well some of it was true
London calling at the top of the dial
An' after all this won't you give me a smile?

I never felt so much like ... singing the blues....."

Patrick
 
There are many reasons why I chose to be an American.
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We all choose to be Americans, every day. There is nothing keeping any us here. We are all free to leave at any time.

I offer a simple explanation for anybody wishing to come here, how these things work in America:

Just because I listened to Mr. Bungles "Everyone I went to High School with is Dead" (while dropping off my Kindergardener this morning) didn't really make it happen.

When "Desert Search for Techno Allah" played next, no Muslims were killed, hurt, or even infuriated.

Carry on..
 
um, Valhalla I am coming?

as we used to say, nahh he was just breathing heavy!:neener:

I was a taxi guy for awhile, but here in Reno you might be considered a terrorist
if you didn't like his choice of music.

One of the reasons I don't mind my dreary job of pizza delivery is because I BLAST War Pigs and Clash and Paranoid and Hendrix and a great album called GUN CONTROL by the sex pistols...mega death...metallica...Clancy Brothers...Dylan...beatles.

I spent more on my car sound system then I did on my last gun purchase.
(oh yeah, I carry a gun and so does my co worker who shot a holdup guy last year)
 
Reminds me of an old shirt my dad had in the 70's

ROCK & ROLL IS NOT A CRIME!

You think they would've detained him for suicidal tendencies for listening to Blue Oyster Cult's "Don't Fear the Reaper? Or drug possession for The Doors?
 
Forget the music, he was pulled off the flight because his name is "Harraj Mann," and he probably looks like his name is "Harraj ibn al-Suicide Bomber Shabaz"

Once upon a time, one olnly had a problem if you were driving the wrong sort of car with the wrong shade of skin; Now you can't use public transportation if you have the wrong "look" about you.

My Orthodox Jewish Brother-in-Law gets the extra hairy eye when he walks through a security checkpoint because he "looks like a moslem" (to quote on security drone I overheard). Yeah, the black hat, prayer shall, and peyes (curled sideburns) are really just what Ossama wears.

Aroundmetro-Detroit, we call this "Driving While Black"... at airports, "Flyign While Brown" is a felony.
 
Real_Name...

I think there are a few in England who may not find the current trend so dandy and who might disagree with the willingness to be searched just because someone didn't like your music. As a matter of fact I can think of one Englishman who, in my opinion, would not be happy, you may recognize him from the excerpt of a speech he made in 1940..

"We shall not flag nor fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France and on the seas and oceans; we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air. We shall defend our island whatever the cost may be; we shall fight on beaches, landing grounds, in fields, in streets and on the hills. We shall never surrender and even if, which I do not for the moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, will carry on the struggle until in God's good time the New World with all its power and might, sets forth to the liberation and rescue of the Old. . "

The proper response to a Totalitarian regime is never, " umm, what's a little inconvenience? "
 
Real_Name,

I thought I'd chime in on this thread and put in my 2 cents worth.
I used to live in London, will you take my comments more serious
than others on this thread.

Your right, this is not our grandfathers America. However, there are many of us here that do remember what it is like to live in a decent society.

What I am about to say is going to sound like a personal attack but
trust me it is not. What this country needs is fewer people that think like you.

I am sure your a well meaning person and all, but attitudes like
you espouse are what has ruined this country. While your here
you might want to consider acting like a citizen instead of a subject.

My advice to you is to read the antiFederalist papers right
after you read the Federalist. You've got alot of catching
up to do.
 
Here's the difficulty for me.

I don't like the idea of video cameras in public areas.

However, I can't see how they're an ivasion of privacy, if they're in public areas... how can you have privacy in public?

Instead of unreliable eyewitnesses you've got video tape, that's the only difference.
 
Chas.
No harm done, I understand your opinion.
But I don't recall saying that the USA needs the video surveillance they have in the UK, I do recall saying that the USA probably will get it, not deserve it.
So, working on the assumption that I am entitled to my opinion, how would the USA be better without people like me?
I'm not the 'King', I have very, very little power here, like us all.

I think, as I have stated all along, that Americans are easily tempted into being anti-Brit.
I love it here and plan on being buried here.
Put the sticks away and accept the differences of opinion that make America truely great.

Just imagine I am a visitor from the future speaking of the way things will come to be, which maybe I am.
It doesn't necessarily mean I am going to implement those changes, or take away anything from you.
I just have opinions and information, and another worldview.

And please everyone, drop the threats. I'm Buddhist, I'm really not supposed to get angry.
(insert smiley of your choice).

Now, do I need to change my sig to "Don't assume I think I am right"?
 
The UK is a great friend and ally.

Much of the perceived rancor toward Briton is coming from people who also know and believe this. They allow themselves to pass judgment and express opinions because it is almost like family.

The fear that the UK is foreshadowing what is going to happen here in years to come is also in play.

Congratulations on your citizenship!!
 
GoRon said:
Congratulations on your citizenship!!
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Thankyou, Thanks a lot.

2 weeks and I'm pure American.

We are going straight out to the range as soon as I get the suit off after the ceremony.
Maybe being American will improve my group size.
 
This is not your Grandfather's America. That much I do know.
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It will be again, one way or another. Either with legal proceedings and tossing out of politicians, or if that fails and the path down the dark road continues, with taking-up of arms.

But it will one day again be as it was. Or it will crumble. And I'd rather fight for the first..
 
But the difference is I grew up with imported terrorism and here in the USA it's a relatively new situation.
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Some of us grew up in the South in the 60's with terroristic attacks against government endorsed terroristic culture/ groups being a common occurrence.

And by the way we got "aint" from y'all;)
 
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