Development of the BHP & the JMB vs Saive Myths

[larryh1108]

I have not.
Once I got my PCR about 12 years ago, my BHP has sat mostly idle.
If I take a lower grip, I can avoid the hammer bite when I find time to shoot it.

 

[larryh1108]

Thanks I love the pistol. I currently own a few more than are in that pic.

I carry this one everyday. It is an alloy gun that Don Williams of the Action Works customized for me. It has Garthwaite internals and his wide trigger. Harrison 1911 night sights. His custom thumb safety and it was refinished in NP3 and Rogard by Robar years ago.

I bet she shoots as good as she looks!
Very nice BHP.....

 

[WVsig]

I bet she shoots as good as she looks!
Very nice BHP.....

It shoots so good he is building me another one. Should be done sometime in Feb.

 

[WVsig]

I have not.
Once I got my PCR about 12 years ago, my BHP has sat mostly idle.
If I take a lower grip, I can avoid the hammer bite when I find time to shoot it.

It might be worth trying this set. If you can detail strip the pistol you can install these.

https://www.brownells.com/handgun-p...spring-set-prod20906.aspx?avs|Make_3=Browning

 

[larryh1108]

I have a great trigger already but the hammer may be worth a "bite"

 

[Jim Watson]

The Ezell book has a lot of pictures but little text on the development of the HP.
Guns dated March 1929 look an awful lot like the 1935 except for a removable bushing a la 1911. (The US stock market crashed in October, which slowed business everywhere.)
Guns dated 1931 appear to lack the removable bushing.

Does anybody have the poop on the Grand Browning?
Looks just like a 1911 except scaled to the 9.65mm FN cartridge.
Colt made essentially the same thing and called it the 9.8mm Colt.

 

[MikeFlorida]

I wish the factory would have made a beavertail that eliminated hammer bite. Every single BHP I fired ate me up. I look at a picture of a beautiful BHP and all I see is pain.

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I am new at this, so I hope this goes through. … I am sure you know that there are alternative hammers from a number of suppliers to eliminate "hammer bite."

My project gun is a BHP clone. I just finished the design changes I wanted to make, but the pistol needs a range test next week. One of the items from initial firing was "hammer bite." I have modified the hammer by removing material from the offending area. I think I have removed enough to prevent the problem, but will not know until next week. If you are a purist, you may not want to do what I did. My modification is not perfect, but I am hoping that the pistol will fire normally without the annoyance of constant pinching--it made firing the pistol far from being enjoyable. Do you wonder how a great designer could miss an obvious defect for the average user?

Regards,
MikeFlorida

 

[WVsig]

The Ezell book has a lot of pictures but little text on the development of the HP.
Guns dated March 1929 look an awful lot like the 1935 except for a removable bushing a la 1911. (The US stock market crashed in October, which slowed business everywhere.)
Guns dated 1931 appear to lack the removable bushing.

Does anybody have the poop on the Grand Browning?
Looks just like a 1911 except scaled to the 9.65mm FN cartridge.
Colt made essentially the same thing and called it the 9.8mm Colt.

Take note of the book sitting on the desk in the video. Every JMB fan needs to own a copy of that book. Anthony Vanderlinden's FN Browning Pistols.

 

[WVsig]

***
I am new at this, so I hope this goes through. … I am sure you know that there are alternative hammers from a number of suppliers to eliminate "hammer bite."

My project gun is a BHP clone. I just finished the design changes I wanted to make, but the pistol needs a range test next week. One of the items from initial firing was "hammer bite." I have modified the hammer by removing material from the offending area. I think I have removed enough to prevent the problem, but will not know until next week. If you are a purist, you may not want to do what I did. My modification is not perfect, but I am hoping that the pistol will fire normally without the annoyance of constant pinching--it made firing the pistol far from being enjoyable. Do you wonder how a great designer could miss an obvious defect for the average user?

Regards,
MikeFlorida

I am going to guess people and their hands were smaller in 1935 which would have resulted in less people experiencing hammer bite. The same thing is true of a non-beavertail 1911.

 

[Schlegel]

I am going to guess people and their hands were smaller in 1935 which would have resulted in less people experiencing hammer bite. The same thing is true of a non-beavertail 1911.

We certainly weighed less, no doubt. But I'm 5 10 and 200 lb and don't get hammer bite from 1911s or Hi powers. And my hands aren't particularly small, I have an octave span on a piano.

 

[WVsig]

We certainly weighed less, no doubt. But I'm 5 10 and 200 lb and don't get hammer bite from 1911s or Hi powers. And my hands aren't particularly small, I have an octave span on a piano.

Grip also has a lot to do with it. Modern shooting techniques tell us to grip the pistol as close to the bore axis as possible. This allows us to control the pistol better but it also puts us closer to the hammer as the gun cycles. I am not sure this was always the case.