DG bullet reloading?

[Smurdman]

So I am starting my research for 9mm Luger loads..I will be using DG 124 gn Polymer coated RN bullets, (they have great reviews for a coated 124 Gn Polymer projectiles). I found a Load in my Modern Reloading book by Richard Lee for a Copper Coated Bullet, using CFE Pistol powder which I have been using with very good results..But nothing for a Polymer coated bullet
Anyone have any experence using Polymer coated projectiles? and finding a good load to use with 124gn CFE Pistol??

 

[Walkalong]

They load pretty much like lead, accept you can drive them faster without leading more easily, as the coating pretty much eliminates leading unless they are a really bad fit/not hard enough to hold the rifling/etc.

 

[LiveLife]

9mm ... DG 124 gn Polymer coated RN bullets ... CFE Pistol

They load pretty much like lead, accept you can drive them faster without leading

I do the same and use lead load data for coated lead bullets (powder coated or Hi-Tek coated) that are typically sized the same as lubed lead bullets at .356".

BTW, here's Hodgdon lead load data you can reference for coated bullets (And don't worry about 1.0 gr difference as many lead/coated lead bullets can vary weight by 1.0 gr so I usually interchange 124/125 gr load data) - http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/pistol

• 9mm 125 gr Lead CN CFE Pistol COL 1.125" Start 4.4 gr (1,041 fps) - Max 5.0 gr (1,156 fps)

Use your barrel to determine the max OAL then feed/chamber from the magazine to determine the working OAL for your powder work up - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...rel-find-a-max-o-a-l-with-your-bullet.506678/

 

[Smurdman]

Thanks Walkalong... I ve heard good things, they are a pretty emerald green color...I picked up 2k for 150.00 including shipping...

 

[Smurdman]

ThanksTLM...I will work some loads up, prob 10 rounds ea going up the powder spectrom. I am going to check out your links..Thanks Much!!

 

[a075923]

I like the color of them, and they group well. But, I consistently get better groups with Brazo's brand. Don't know why, and it's not a big difference. I'll continue to buy both in 9mm, 40 S&W, and 45acp until I can get jacketed RMR or Zero brand on a regular basis.

 

[Smurdman]

I like the color of them, and they group well. But, I consistently get better groups with Brazo's brand. Don't know why, and it's not a big difference. I'll continue to buy both in 9mm, 40 S&W, and 45acp until I can get jacketed RMR or Zero brand on a regular basis.

Brazo's were out when I ordered mine, I 'll check em out some time.

 

[LiveLife]

ThanksTLM

It's actually LiveLife ... Linux Mint is free open source OS I recommend to people - https://linuxmint.com/

I am going to check out your links

While you are checking out links, check this post for reloading tips and more links - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-and-discussions.778197/page-10#post-11419509

And welcome to THR H&R category where reloading is a hobby for many and handloading is a passion for some.

 

[lordpaxman]

Welcome to THR!
There are several coated bullet suppliers, check out Bayou’s sometime, they will also size them for you.
@LiveLife gave you Hodgdon’s data for CFE Pistol, but you may want to explore other powders. I like a faster powder for coated bullets in 9mm, such as Sport Pistol, or even faster like IMR Target, N320 or Titegroup if you’re so inclined. Good luck!

 

[mdi]

My methods are the same as the first two replies; Walkalong and LiveLife. I PC some and purchase some Hi-Tek and I treat them just like nekkid cast, sizing and loading methods. Some experimenting has given me higher velocities, in the jacketed bullet range, but I have no real need so I just stick with my plain lead bullet loads...

 

[LiveLife]

I found a Load in my Modern Reloading book by Richard Lee for a Copper Coated Bullet, using CFE Pistol powder which I have been using with very good results

you may want to explore other powders. I like a faster powder for coated bullets in 9mm, such as Sport Pistol, or even faster like IMR Target, N320 or Titegroup

While slower burning than Unique/Universal powders are better suited for higher velocity loads, they tend to produce optimal accuracy at high to near max load data.

PC (powder coat) ... Hi-Tek ... Some experimenting has given me higher velocities, in the jacketed bullet range, but I have no real need so I just stick with my plain lead bullet loads

If you are loading lighter target loads, W231/HP-38/Sport Pistol and faster burning powders are better suited as slower burning powders may not sufficiently deform/bump the bullet base to seal with the barrel whereas faster burning powders can better deform/bump the bullet base, especially at lower target load powder charges using lead load data.

In another thread, we discussed our favorite 9mm powders and here are mine with characteristics and reasons why for each - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...mm-45-acp-308-223.872586/page-2#post-11591867

I separate pistol powders by "relative" burn rates into following groups and as you can see, CFE Pistol is in the slower burning groups and will benefit from being loaded higher for accuracy.


Faster burning pistol powders:

E3 - Competition - Nitro 100 - N310 - Norma R1

Red Dot/Promo - IMR Red - Clays - 700X - Bullseye - Vectan Ba 10 - IMR Target - TiteGroup - Vectan AS - Am. Select - Solo 1000 - WST - International - Trail Boss - N320 - Vectan Ba 9.5 - No. 2 - Clean Shot/Lovex D032.03

Sport Pisto - W231/HP-38 - Zip - Green Dot - IMR Green - W244


Slower burning pistol powders:

Unique - Universal - IMR Unequal - Vectan Ba 9 - BE-86 - Power Pistol - N330 - Vectan A1 - Herco - Vectan A0 - WSF - N340 - 800X

No. 5 - Auto Pistol/Lovex D036-03 - True Blue - HS6 - AutoComp - Ultimate Pistol/Lovex D036-07 - CFE Pistol - Silhouette - 3N37

N350 - 3N38 - IMR Blue - W572 - Blue Dot - No. 7 - Major Pistol/Lovex D037-01 - Vectan Ba 7.5 - Pro Reach - Long Shot - 2400

Enforcer - No. 9 - Heavy Pistol/Lovex D037-02 - 4100 - Steel - Norma R123 - N110 - Lil'Gun - W296/H110 - 300-MP - 11FS - Vectan Ba 6.5 - H4227

 

[Thomasss]

I purchased Missouri Bullet Co 9mm, 124 gr round nose powder coated powder bullets and load them from 4.8 to 5.0 grains of CFE pistol. Shot them through a full size XDM Springfield. I did notice a little leading right at the muzzle after shooting 100 rounds at 5.0 grains of CFE pistol powder. I've backed off to 4.8 grains and accuracy improved, the semi recycles just fine and the barrel is clean as a whistle. Be aware that CFE Pistol tends to accumulate pressure as the loads increase.

 

[LiveLife]

Missouri Bullet Co 9mm, 124 gr round nose powder coated ... little leading right at the muzzle ... at 5.0 grains of CFE pistol powder.

Leading at the muzzle usually indicates lead bullet driven too fast for the lubricant used; and for coated bullets, coating is the lubricant.

I've backed off to 4.8 grains and accuracy improved, the semi recycles just fine and the barrel is clean as a whistle.

Nice.

I usually load 124 gr bullets around 1050 fps (using W231/HP-38 and faster burning powders) as I am just punching paper and different bullet types tend to do well at that velocity. For higher velocity loads, WSF/BE-86 for me as they have flexibility to produce accuracy down to mid-range load data.

With lighter 115/100/95 gr bullets, especially for carbine loads, I load them higher, often near max load data, to optimize accuracy and reduce bullet drop.

 

[Smurdman]

Welcome to THR!
There are several coated bullet suppliers, check out Bayou’s sometime, they will also size them for you.
@LiveLife gave you Hodgdon’s data for CFE Pistol, but you may want to explore other powders. I like a faster powder for coated bullets in 9mm, such as Sport Pistol, or even faster like IMR Target, N320 or Titegroup if you’re so inclined. Good luck!

Thank You for the info... Unfortunatly all I have is CFE, I couldn't pass up a deal I got for an 8 lb container I was looking for titegroup and W231 but no luck finding any.

 

[Smurdman]

I purchased Missouri Bullet Co 9mm, 124 gr round nose powder coated powder bullets and load them from 4.8 to 5.0 grains of CFE pistol. Shot them through a full size XDM Springfield. I did notice a little leading right at the muzzle after shooting 100 rounds at 5.0 grains of CFE pistol powder. I've backed off to 4.8 grains and accuracy improved, the semi recycles just fine and the barrel is clean as a whistle. Be aware that CFE Pistol tends to accumulate pressure as the loads increase.

Good advice, I have only loaded 150 rounds of 115 gn copper jacketed with vairing powder and COAL's all shot well... seemed the groups were better somewhere in the middle 1.130/1.140 OAL and 4.9 to 5.2 gn's CFE..