Did I get it right ?

[horsemen61]

Ok guys I went and spoke with someone about doing an sbr so I said what do I need engraved he said " name town state and the letters SBR IS THIS CORRECT "

Thanks horsemen61

 

[Sam1911]

Is "SBR" your serial number?

 

[Telekinesis]

Assuming you're building a SBR off of an already manufactured and serialized receiver, you need your name (or name of the trust that owns the weapon), your city, and your state. It should exactly match what the "additional description" box (4.H) on your form 1 has in it. You do not need to engrave what type of NFA weapon you are registering.

 

[medalguy]

Yep. "XYZ Trust, Anytown, Texas" does it. I'm assuming it's already numbered by the original manufacturer.

 

[AlexanderA]

I would recommend putting your name, city, and state on the barrel instead of on the receiver. That way, when you later go to sell it, you can substitute an over-16" barrel, "deregister" the gun by writing a letter to the ATF, and then sell it as a regular Title I firearm. This would actually bring you more money (and make the gun more salable) than if it was a registered SBR.

 

[Arizona_Mike]

I would recommend putting your name, city, and state on the barrel instead of on the receiver. That way, when you later go to sell it, you can substitute an over-16" barrel, "deregister" the gun by writing a letter to the ATF, and then sell it as a regular Title I firearm. This would actually bring you more money (and make the gun more salable) than if it was a registered SBR.

So much disinformation on this forum. Extra markings do not make the gun with a 16" barrel a NFA item.

Are you saying that it would be non-transferralbe (wrong) or that you can't deactivate it with a name and town on the receiver (wrong) or are you just suggesting that additional markings might decrease resale value (perhaps but speculative)?

 

[Arizona_Mike]

For the OP: Another common bit of disinformation commonly found is that there is a height requirement for your markings. There is a height and depth requirement for the serial number. Other markings only have a depth requirement.

Mike

 

[AlexanderA]

Are you saying that it would be non-transferralbe (wrong) or that you can't deactivate it with a name and town on the receiver (wrong) or are you just suggesting that additional markings might decrease resale value (perhaps but speculative)?

What I'm saying is that a lower receiver with somebody's name and address engraved on it is not worth very much, considering that new lower receivers are commonly available. I certainly wouldn't buy it (at any price). This is like guns on which, years ago, somebody engraved their social security number. Absolutely ruins the collector value.

Since you can engrave the information on the short barrel, why wouldn't you do it that way?

 

[Telekinesis]

Since you can engrave the information on the short barrel, why wouldn't you do it that way?

Because then you have to engrave every short barrel that you want to put on the gun. Not a big deal if you only want one or two barrel/caliber options, but if you want the ability to put more than that on the gun, engraving multiple barrels could get annoying. Putting the information on the lower means that you can swap uppers at will without worrying about marking it.

 

[horsemen61]

I was told that I had to have the letters SBR ENGRAVED ON IT BECAUSE IT IS A rifle lower I bought

 

[RyanM]

I was told that I had to have the letters SBR ENGRAVED ON IT BECAUSE IT IS A rifle lower I bought

Whoever told you that is a dumbo poo poo head.

I seriously suggest taking any and all advice from them with an entire shaker of salt.

 

[Telekinesis]

I was told that I had to have the letters SBR ENGRAVED ON IT BECAUSE IT IS A rifle lower I bought

Whoever told you that was wrong. If you're in doubt, look up the regs yourself in the ATF's NFA Handbook. It should be in the section about markings on NFA weapons.

Might also want to check your caps lock key, either it's malfunctioning or you seem to be yelling at us in every post.

 

[Sam1911]

hat way, when you later go to sell it, you can substitute an over-16" barrel, "deregister" the gun by writing a letter to the ATF, and then sell it as a regular Title I firearm.

Just to point out, there is no reason you have to write a letter to the ATF about this. The gun is not an SBR if it is not configured as an SBR.

Q: May I transfer the receiver of a short-barrel rifle or shotgun to an FFL or to an individual as I would any GCA firearm?
Yes. A weapon that does not meet the definition of a NFA “firearm” is not subject to the NFA and a possessor or transferor needn’t comply with NFA requirements. The firearm is considered a GCA firearm and may be transferred under the provisions of that law.

Q: Who is responsible for notifying the NFA Branch when I transfer the GCA firearm to a FFL or another individual?
There is no requirement that the transferor or transferee of a GCA firearm notify the NFA branch of a transfer or that either party determine whether the firearm was previously registered under the NFA. There is no also no requirement for the registrant or possessor of a NFA firearm to notify ATF of the removal of features that caused the firearm to be subject to the NFA; however, ATF recommends the owner notify the NFA Branch in writing if a firearm is permanently removed from the NFA.

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/national-firearms-act-short-barreled-rifles-shotguns.html

 

[Arizona_Mike]

In the case of the AR-15, a good barrel usually costs more than good lower.

Mike

 

[AlexanderA]

You would only engrave the short barrels. No need to engrave any over-16" barrels.

 

[horsemen61]

Ok sorry guys about the caps lock yeah it was acting up well that's what I was told so it will be on there I guess.

 

[RyanM]

Ok sorry guys about the caps lock yeah it was acting up well that's what I was told so it will be on there I guess.

Note to self: tell everyone that NFA firearms must have "I am a wombat" engraved on them, for legal reasons.

 

[Aaron Baker]

Why did you bother to come on here and ask if you weren't going to follow our advice and instead follow the advice of the idiot who already misinformed you?

The people answering you know and have read the law. They're highly experienced and they're correct: the letters SBR do not need to be engraved. Don't believe us? Ask the ATF directly. They'll tell you the same thing.

Of course it doesn't hurt to do it. You can engrave "My name is horseman and I love meatballs" if you want to. But it isn't any more required than the letters SBR.

Good luck.

Aaron

 

[zignal_zero]

You can add one more to the list of folks telling you that you do NOT have to engrave "SBR" on your SBR.

It is your gun, engrave whatever you want on it, but the BATFE does NOT require it.

 

[Sam1911]

Ok, good gracious, the point is made. And the deed is done, so why pile on?

Personally, I LIKE, "I am a Wombat." I might start engraving that on my rifles!