Disarmed Katrina survivor recovering from surgery files federal lawsuit

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Well, during those days in NO it was certainly time to STB :fire:

Apparently it didn't happen because no one thought the cops would do what they did until it was too late.

We know better now, though - don't we ....?
 
WHERE'S THE MEMBER WHOSE BUDDY WAS IN ON THAT PIECE OF ACTION?
He said he'd get the scoop and let us know what his friend said.
 
is it right? no
is it fair? hell no
is it what will happen? probably so

And because it is not right, and not fair, this woman will take legal recourse, most likely settle for a few million, and the JBTs in question will (hopefully) be fired, and if we're lucky will have to serve prison sentences.

Things like this make me want to be a lawyer.
 
I have the unedited "original" first airing of this event. If someone will host it for me.
 
She refused a "lawful order to evacuate"

and then pulled a gun on officers present to rescue her. At least according to LE on the ground.

Personally, I hope she wins BIG.
 
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Johnny_Yuma said:
I just watched the video. She WAS given notice of the evacuation and then pulled a gun on her rescuers. This DID NOT happen the way you people are posing it. The woman is lucky she isn't dead. If I had been there she would have gotten an up-close look at the business end of my Glock, as seen over my size 10 Mpact boot on her neck. I would expect charges to be filed any day now except that no AUSA has the fortitude to prosecute this case.

I originally supported those that stayed in their homes. However, after talking with LE on the ground in NOLA, I am convinced that NOBODY had any business riding out this storm. Thankfully, all citizens seemed to have kept SOME of their wits and NOT fired on LE evacuating them to safety.

"I don't want you in here." Yeah? Fine - follow orders and GET OUT and we'll leave.

JY


Um, what? Are you serious?
 
"I don't want you in here." Yeah? Fine - follow orders and GET OUT and we'll leave.

And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling in terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?

The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

-- Alexandr Solzhenitsyn, "The Gulag Archipelago"

Nio
 
Solzhenitsyn sums things up very nicely.
Yuma, why the retraction? Surely it was in jest.
ETA, I hope they get a huge award.
 
Nio said:
And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling in terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?

The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

-- Alexandr Solzhenitsyn, "The Gulag Archipelago"

Nio

Finally got around to reading this after seeing it mentioned so many times. Continued:

"If ... if ... We didn't love freedom enough."
"We spent ourselves in one unrestrained outburst in 1917, and then we hurried to submit. We submitted with pleasure!"
"We purely and simply deserved what happened afterward."
 
Well the way I heard it the cops ASKED for her gun and she held it around the cylinder and showed it. I dont care either way though because the way they took that old lady down with her old revolver in her possession was UNEXCUSABLE but I guess LEO's can always find an excuse for the wrongdoings of their bretherin. My great grandfather was a city policeman and after he retired he was shot dead by someone who he had to take down during his career so I have as much or more respect than most for the L.E. community and even though I am no angel myself and I have had a run in or two with L.E.'s in my life I ALWAYS respect the job and have donated to the P.B.A. numerous times, but I and everyone else knows even if they don't admit it that cops who are dirty and the cops that lie or misrepresent facts to excuse misdeeds committed by fellow officers are what gives all cops a bad name.:( Say what you will but when you have seen corruption and lawbreaking by LEO'S right in front of your face like I have it makes you understand just how common it is and truly makes one greatful for the good honest officers out there who have to put up with the crap and hatred that is brought about by other officers who could give two loads of crap for the law and the people they are sworn to protect (Like the Cali officers in question for instance and we don't have to guess why they chose CALI officers to do this do we??)This woman was in HER HOME BOTHERING NO ONE AND BREAKING NO LAWS!!! SHE HAD FOOD AND WATER AND WANTED NO HELP!!!! I fail to see how anyone cannot understand these simple facts. My god what happened to FREEDOM!! This is AMERICA FOR GODS SAKE!!:cuss: :mad: All I can say is that if the worse ever does happen anyone who comes to disrm me will have to pry my guns from my cold dead hands as the saying goes no matter what uniform they wear. I hope this lady CLEANS UP in her lawsuit and I hope the LEO's in question go to prison for some really intense lessons in life.
 
Originally Posted by Johnny_Yuma
I just watched the video. She WAS given notice of the evacuation and then pulled a gun on her rescuers. This DID NOT happen the way you people are posing it. The woman is lucky she isn't dead. If I had been there she would have gotten an up-close look at the business end of my Glock, as seen over my size 10 Mpact boot on her neck. I would expect charges to be filed any day now except that no AUSA has the fortitude to prosecute this case.

I originally supported those that stayed in their homes. However, after talking with LE on the ground in NOLA, I am convinced that NOBODY had any business riding out this storm. Thankfully, all citizens seemed to have kept SOME of their wits and NOT fired on LE evacuating them to safety.

"I don't want you in here." Yeah? Fine - follow orders and GET OUT and we'll leave.

JY

I hope that, if it ever comes to it, the JBT's are of your mindset. That way I will know what I am doing is morally justified.

The rest of my thoughts are not suitable for this forum.
 
Video Link

Can someone host the vid for 50 Freak?
This would clarify the situation and settle much of the speculation.
 
Someone should have informed Ponch and John that gun grabbing in the United States is not just frowned upon, it's F*****G ILLEGAL! I suppose they're so accustomed to the standard operating procedure for gun grabs in their own fruity republic, so it's only natural that California standards be applied to South Louisiana. :cuss: :fire:
 
goalie said:
The rest of my thoughts are not suitable for this forum.

That's kind of where my mind was, but given the circumstances, I was hoping I minunderstood Mr. Yuma or perhaps that the post that arrived in my inbox was in jest. It seems he retracted it, but I'd rather not single him out, I'm more curious now if that's the prevailing attitude of LEO's in this day and age...maybe not on this board, I'm more concerned about those that don't subscribe so much to "the high road". :uhoh:
 
I do not understand why criminal complaints of armed robbery, felonious assult and official oppression have not been filed against the people who did this.
:mad:
 
Jeez, guys

I wrote a couple of sarcastic posts that didn't look so clever upon posting. I retracted it when I saw how it looked but not before somebody clipped it and quoted it. Now, some of you guys are talking about shooting cops. Who's the bad guy here?

My posting history on the Katrina subject is fairly clear.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=1902047#post1902047
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=1901381#post1901381
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=1901273#post1901273
 
Thanks for the follow-up story. I was wondering what became of her.

As I recall she told the cops not to enter her house and only produced the gun in an effort to satisfy them that she was able to protect herself? They were quite brutal in educating her otherwise.

I'm amazed to hear people can actually buy their way out of such things. :what:
 
Traditionally, individual officers never pay general or punitive damages. The damages are picked up and paid for by his employing government agency. If the employing government agency doesn't pick up the tab, the officer invariably sues his employer for failing to train him to handle the situation that caused him to violate someone's civil rights.

It is an exercise in paradox. An officer swears to defend the constitution and people's rights, but he has to admit he doesn't know what those civil rights are in order to sue his employer for failing to train him.

Pilgrim
 
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