Discouraging the "Zombie" market

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I'm starting to see at least some of the logic behind the OP, I just doubt it will materialize.

This same theoretical argument gets applied to people who kill people in the name of exorcisms, or neglect healthcare on behalf of the Church as a whole.

It hasn't worked real well for the offenders in those cases, and has had very little impact on the Church to boot.

There will always be crazy. Some people wake up, and decide to bring the crazy EXTRA HARD that day.

Anyone who honestly confesses to touching off rounds at "zombies" may very well be attempting to lay the foundation of an insanity defense ( Hey, its been tried with Twinkies.... to a degree ) but I'm sure, just as in the Twinkie defense, the public reaction is gonna be about the same. In the courts eyes, the ammo might be attributed to an underlying condition much as the Twinkie..... But its not the fault of Hostess, and snack cake vendors and their customers suffered not at all.

Anyone who conversely takes up the banner of the Zombie ammo defense is going to be ridiculed in much the same manner as the defense team was there....except by the accused.
 
I don't think "antis", and other people in general, are generally considered with "why's" people get mowed down as much as the means by which it happens.
 
The zombie fad will soon run its course and the goofy marketing will go away.

Personally, I don't see it as any more of a liability issue for the manufacturers than all the stuff marketed as "tactical". If some lunatic sees himself as some kind of super secret operator and starts whacking "the enemy", will the companies that sold him the gear be responsible for feeding his delusions?

How about all the cowboy action shooting stuff? Someone might think they are the re-incarnation of John Wesley Hardin.
 
Say some nutcase makes the news with a tacticool 30/30 loaded with zombie ammo. Then the gun haters come in and manage to outlaw tacticool 30/30's and zombie ammo.
The net result is we have to go back to shooting better-looking guns, and bullets with red tips instead of green.
It just occurred to me that a tacticool 30/30 and zombie ammo might be a good investment.
 
I'm done and a half with zombies. By the time the World War Z movie actually comes out, this will have been going on for several years. I don't care if people want to have a little fun and a giggle, but this was past silly long ago.

As for how it could backlash us...I dunno. I really don't see much difference between a shooter who goes zombie and one who goes postal.
 
There actually has been a mass shooting of "zombies" by a deranged individual in Seattle a few years back invited to a "zombie rave."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,189111,00.html

Note the date. That was back when zombies were still trendy in the ironic counter-culture. A reaction against the then-overhyped vampires. The posts suggesting this is a fad on the way out are correct. It's gone from retro genre to hip counterculture to mainstream hype, and the next stage is back to the grave.

he was defending himself from zombies, and the gun grabbers expose all the guns sold as "Zombie Killers" and Hornaday's Zombie ammo, it's going to create a PR nightmare for the arms industry as well as some potential lawsuits.
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I can see the potential for media hype, but not much beyond that. Assume the killer above used Z-Max bullets. He'd still be a complete nutcase, and the existence of the special "zombie" bullet would be no more causative than the existence of silver bullets.
 
It's not just the zombies craze. As gun owners, we have a responsibility to ourselves and our shooting brethren to act like mature adults.

Every example of a EOTWAWKI, SHTF, "which battle rifle has the most bullets?" thread and similar sorts of polls, BBs, clubs, etc. furthers some antis' impression that we're all kooks, and therefore dangerous. I of course don't agree, but why give them the rope with which to hang ourselves?

Feel free to flame me--I don't care.
 
I'm putting this here for purpose of getting this message out.

Before I get started, I want to make it clear that this is not a "moral" or "rights" argument. This is to encourage a "lock your door when you leave your house" policy. Meaning, this has nothing to do with rights and responsibilities and everything to do with exposing one's self to unwanted trouble from the bad guys.

The issue is that it seams as though the firearm industry is trying to market on this recent "Cowboy" media craze in rather disturbing ways. Namely Hornaday's Cowboy ammo marketing but other stuff as well.

The gun grabbers may be on the defensive now but they're not defeated and they WILL hit back hard if you leave them a good opening.

It's only a matter of time before some nutcase takes this outlaw killing fad to the extreme and mows a few people down. And when that happens, the first thing the gun grabbers are going to do is look for any way they can lay the blame on the firearm industry and with all this real ordnance marketed as outlaw killers and whatnot is going to amplify any success or chance of success they can get out of it.

Anyway, this is no attack on the industry. I have a gun called "outlaw killer" myself and really like it.
http://www.taylorsfirearmsstore.com/army_outlaw.htm It's not about that at all. This is just an alert to the arms industry. In a truly free country and free market this should not be an issue. Unfortunately, we live in a time when we need to watch our backs when it comes to things like this and using the Cowboy fad to market real ordnance doesn't seem like a very wise choice under the present circumstances.:rolleyes:


SASS=ZSA

http://zombieshootersassociation.com/

http://www.sassnet.com/
 
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I'm a zombie fan, but more because of the teaching moments they provide. I used to ask the kids at the church "zombie apocalypse, right now. What do you do?". Got funny looks until people heard their answers. "too much glass here, we need to go to a different room. I'm not sure we have enough food here. How much gas is in the car? Where's the first aid kit?" They were using situational awareness and evaluating situations that could mirror natural disasters. Great teaching tools.
I am not sure how zombie marketing is more dangerous than any other marketing. A buddy's dad thinks our community has a troop of nazis lurking about trying to "get" him. I'm sure if someone is gonna trade in their sanity card it ain't gonna matter who they believe is coming to get them...
But when the zombies come, AND THEY WILL COME, I will be ready ;)
 
I'm putting this here for purpose of getting this message out.

Before I get started, I want to make it clear that this is not a "moral" or "rights" argument. This is to encourage a "lock your door when you leave your house" policy. Meaning, this has nothing to do with rights and responsibilities and everything to do with exposing one's self to unwanted trouble from the bad guys.

The issue is that it seams as though the firearm industry is trying to market on this recent "Cowboy" media craze in rather disturbing ways. Namely Hornaday's Cowboy ammo marketing but other stuff as well.

The gun grabbers may be on the defensive now but they're not defeated and they WILL hit back hard if you leave them a good opening.

It's only a matter of time before some nutcase takes this outlaw killing fad to the extreme and mows a few people down. And when that happens, the first thing the gun grabbers are going to do is look for any way they can lay the blame on the firearm industry and with all this real ordnance marketed as outlaw killers and whatnot is going to amplify any success or chance of success they can get out of it.

Anyway, this is no attack on the industry. I have a gun called "outlaw killer" myself and really like it.
http://www.taylorsfirearmsstore.com/army_outlaw.htm It's not about that at all. This is just an alert to the arms industry. In a truly free country and free market this should not be an issue. Unfortunately, we live in a time when we need to watch our backs when it comes to things like this and using the Cowboy fad to market real ordnance doesn't seam like a very wise choice under the present circumstances.
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This.
 
This thread has to be a joke, I mean, seriously, the thought and time put into this argument is hysterical and the fact that it's being presented as a serious issue has me laughing out loud to the extent my coworkers are wondering if I'm being eaten by zombies.
 
I actually think the opposite of the op. It might actually bring a would-be-anti onto our side if you can put a fun spin on things and making it about a light subject instead of thinking about "scary" things such as a home invasion or being mugged,...or being the victim in an active shooter situation. You're simply talking about killing something that is evil and heck...it's already been dead anyways.

Think about it. If you got someone into martial arts would they be the first in line to propose a ban on owning swords? Not likely. Would someone who never owned a gun but liked zombie movies and zombie books be interested in going to a range and maybe shooting a zombie target for fun? I think there's a good possibility.
 
That does it............I am going out to buy some Zombie ammo first thing tomorrow......so there...........chris3
 
It might actually bring a would-be-anti onto our side if you can put a fun spin on things and making it about a light subject instead of thinking about "scary" things
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When was the last time you heard an anti-gun person discuss any aspect of gun ownership in a light or humorous manner?
 
When was the last time you heard an anti-gun person discuss any aspect of gun ownership in a light or humorous manner?
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If you read what I wrote...I said a "would-be-anti"....not an anti-gun person. I was referring to someone who may not have ever even thought about shooting a gun or whether or not there should be any form of gun control, etc. But I still disagree anyways. Lots of people are anti-gun. Lots of people also watch movies with guns in them and shows like Top Shot, etc. The exposure could very well get someone who was anti-gun to possibly try shooting a gun...especially if it was in a fun scenario. Then maybe if they like it who knows. Sure, a lot of them you'll never convert and I personally don't want to spend my time hanging out with antis, but if a movie or a model of a gun converts a few people...the more the merrier. I definitely don't see it doing any harm.
 
It might actually bring a would-be-anti onto our side if you can put a fun spin on things and making it about a light subject instead of thinking about "scary" things
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Or.... there really could be a zombie epidemic. We'll all be glad that we have that ammo then because the regular stuff isn't as effective. :)
 
I think we should just go back to "Cowboys and Indians" or "Cops and Robbers."
Then we would just be practicing killing people instead of human-shaped monsters.
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Hi..my name is red and I am a zombieholic.

Just had to get that one in before this thread is closed.:D
 
This is to encourage a "lock your door when you leave your house" policy.
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I seriously thought the OP was going to say lock your door, or else the zombies will get in.

Personally, I don't get the current zombie obsession (and its not just firearm culture - it's all over the place). Nor do I get the Punisher thing. But that's OK. I don't mind not being in this week's cool crowd.
 
I'm done and a half with zombies. By the time the World War Z movie actually comes out, this will have been going on for several years.
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Years? Man when I was doing the zombie thing as a kid over 20 years ago, and it had been around for a long time before that.

Zombies as a cultural phenomenon have been going on for decades. I don't think it shows any sign of slowing up anytime soon, and even if it stopped tomorrow its went far too long to call it a fad or anything else.
 
Zombies have been the subject of the media since Bele Lugosi starred in "White Zombie" back in 1932. They went from being live people in a drug induced hypnotic state to an actual race of the undead in 1968 with the film "Night of the Living Dead". Zombies have been around a long time, they are not a passing fad and are not going to go away. To think that they will lead to the loss of our guns is like saying kids dressin' up as Frankenstein and Count Dracula on Halloween are a threat too. They are all just fictional creatures in horror movies. Any nut case justifying shooting up a mall claiming he was defending himself from Zombies, is just that....a nut case.
 
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