Hack said: "The bush administration is putting out stuff I don't think they believe true to scare as many people as possible into rallying around the president.
Societal Coersion using a basic human instinct.
If the administration's claims are knowingly based on falsehood the term Social Engineering seems fitting indeed with or without laws attached.
If this warning is based on the administration's actual beliefs we may find ourselves truly screwed as they would seem way too ready to clamp down for any whim, logical or not.
I don't think the admin believes their own spin and this is sheep herding.
I'm done."
Ok chicken little, the sky is NOT falling. I really think more than a few people here don't really know how this Govt works. OK, lets walk thru this, on 9/11/01, 11 terrorists hijacked some jetliners and flew 2 into the twin towers, one into the Pentagon, one got ditched by the heroic efforts of some great Americans. Thousands of innocent Americans were killed in horrific ways. The days and weeks that followed the majority of this Nation cried for blood and rightly so. We had been attacked on our own home soil, as never before , EVER. More so than Pearl Harbor. So Pres Bush took it to Congress(which is american policy) to get their permission to go to war(per American policy). Congress then holds a hearing on all ALL intelligence from the Pentagon, the FBI CIA and various other agencies, but, THIS WHOLE COUNTRY WAS IN SHOCK and knew that we had to take action. Then Congress votes and decides whether to go to war or not. If they so decide it's then handed over to the Pentagon and the military, where they do what they're paid and trained to do, go to war. In case some haven't noticed , the miliatry learned as soon as they went after Bin laden, that the middle east people were tight knit and part of their success is to not let any foreigner in their group. That should have been a clue, as now the CIA admits that they didn't have actual bodies in these groups ever since UN weapons inspectors were kicked out, so they didn't have first hand intel, but they had 2nd hand intel and in 9/21/01, that was good enough. Sure hindsight is 20/20, woulda, coulda, shoulda, we still did the right thing. This is war on terroroism, wherever it lives. Iraq had terrorist training camps, that was enough. we knew sadm had WMD, 'cause we gave them to him when we put him in charge to fight Russia on Afgan, but he used them on the Kurds instead. Bush was almost obligated to help Iraq rebuild, 'cause his Dad pulled out on them and they didn't trust Jr, but he gained their trust and is doing a hellofa job, imo. Now, so noone is surprised, we might just mosey on into Syria and Egypt, 'cause they're harboring terrorists too. Now, if anyone sees it differently , I'm sure you'll speak up.
Societal Coersion using a basic human instinct.
If the administration's claims are knowingly based on falsehood the term Social Engineering seems fitting indeed with or without laws attached.
If this warning is based on the administration's actual beliefs we may find ourselves truly screwed as they would seem way too ready to clamp down for any whim, logical or not.
I don't think the admin believes their own spin and this is sheep herding.
I'm done."
Ok chicken little, the sky is NOT falling. I really think more than a few people here don't really know how this Govt works. OK, lets walk thru this, on 9/11/01, 11 terrorists hijacked some jetliners and flew 2 into the twin towers, one into the Pentagon, one got ditched by the heroic efforts of some great Americans. Thousands of innocent Americans were killed in horrific ways. The days and weeks that followed the majority of this Nation cried for blood and rightly so. We had been attacked on our own home soil, as never before , EVER. More so than Pearl Harbor. So Pres Bush took it to Congress(which is american policy) to get their permission to go to war(per American policy). Congress then holds a hearing on all ALL intelligence from the Pentagon, the FBI CIA and various other agencies, but, THIS WHOLE COUNTRY WAS IN SHOCK and knew that we had to take action. Then Congress votes and decides whether to go to war or not. If they so decide it's then handed over to the Pentagon and the military, where they do what they're paid and trained to do, go to war. In case some haven't noticed , the miliatry learned as soon as they went after Bin laden, that the middle east people were tight knit and part of their success is to not let any foreigner in their group. That should have been a clue, as now the CIA admits that they didn't have actual bodies in these groups ever since UN weapons inspectors were kicked out, so they didn't have first hand intel, but they had 2nd hand intel and in 9/21/01, that was good enough. Sure hindsight is 20/20, woulda, coulda, shoulda, we still did the right thing. This is war on terroroism, wherever it lives. Iraq had terrorist training camps, that was enough. we knew sadm had WMD, 'cause we gave them to him when we put him in charge to fight Russia on Afgan, but he used them on the Kurds instead. Bush was almost obligated to help Iraq rebuild, 'cause his Dad pulled out on them and they didn't trust Jr, but he gained their trust and is doing a hellofa job, imo. Now, so noone is surprised, we might just mosey on into Syria and Egypt, 'cause they're harboring terrorists too. Now, if anyone sees it differently , I'm sure you'll speak up.