Do Guns Keep Communities Safe from Burglary?

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Do Guns Keep Communities Safe from Burglary?
6/25/2003

Q & A with a Researcher
By Kathleen Nelson

Do guns protect or put you at risk of burglary? Dr. Philip Cook, an economist and professor of Public Policy at Duke University designed a study to answer this question. His guns and burglary research appears in the new book Evaluating Gun Policy, which he edited along with Jens Ludwig. Ludwig is also a co-author for the burglary study.

Join Together: Guns and burglary. What are the arguments?
Cook: There's a lot of discussion on how gun ownership affects burglary. The public especially fears "hot" burglaries where someone is at home. The argument has been that we're lucky to live in a country with many guns because the threat of being shot deters burglars from breaking into occupied dwellings.

Join Together: Is that true?
Cook: We found that residential burglary rates actually tend to increase when there are more guns in a community, and the percentage of those burglaries that are "hot" is not affected by gun prevalence. The deterrent effect appears to be of negligible importance: It's highly unusual for break-ins where someone is home to result in self-defense with a gun.

Join Together: What about burglary rates in countries with fewer guns, like Britain?
Cook: Britain is frequently cited by those who argue for the deterrent effect, because a somewhat higher percentage of residential burglaries there involve occupied dwellings than in the U.S. But that could be true for a variety of reasons, not just because of a difference in gun ownership. For example, penalties for burglary are much less in Britain than in the US. More households in Britain include no adult male residents. So this comparison tells us little or nothing about the role of guns.

Join Together: Instead you compared similar US counties that had different gun-ownership rates.
Cook: Yes, we found that the likelihood of a household being victimized was higher if they lived in a county with high gun prevalence than low prevalence. That finding held true after we adjusted for household characteristics and for the possibility of "reverse causation," or the theory that people arm themselves because they fear burglary. Our study rules out the idea that neighborhoods with a lot of guns will discourage the burglars.

Join Together: Some argue that gun ownership has risks and benefits, just like owning a car. What do you say to that?
Cook: We didn't intend this article to be a risk/benefit assessment of people owning a gun, but more about whether you want to live in a neighborhood where your neighbors own guns. Our research shows that if your neighbors are heavily armed, you're not getting any protection. In fact, it might makes things more dicey. That dovetails nicely with Dr. David Hemenway's research. He asks: Do you feel safe with a gun in your home? Most people say yes. Then he asks: would you feel safer if your neighbors had guns. Most say no.



Cook, P., & Ludwig, J. Guns and Burglary. From Evaluating Gun Policy: Effects on Crime and Violence. Ludwig, J. and Cook, PH, eds. Brookings Institution Press, © 2003.

Miller M., Azrael D., Hemenway D. (2000) Community firearms, community fear. Epidemiology, 11(6): 709-14.

http://www.jointogether.org/gv/news/summaries/reader/0,2061,564439,00.html
 
Actually, it sounds like very balanced research to me. I don't see any bias in his methodology or, more importantly, his conclusions.
 
Apples and oranges - sleight of hand. We actually are much safer here in the States from Wallaby's as well but you don't see Australia trying to outlaw them because they are more accidents attribuatable to Wallaby's in AUS than here in the States. Flawed study not taking into account divergent demographics; culture; attitudes towards crime; etc. You must compare like with like to get a good result.

For example, if this research were accurate using American culture, then DC would have no burglary's because they have totally outlawed guns (or, they would have far less than ottumwa Iowa). Think that is a fact?? :confused:
 
So what? If guns in a community don't decrease violent crime, whatever shall we do? We have to come up with something that'll decrease crime. Perhaps we should ban guns in the community! That'll do something good for sure. Guns are E-VILLE. Either the criminals will stop carrying, or they'll be rounded up, or ... :rolleyes:

It's my life. If you're not going to protect it for the cost of a reliable handgun, rifle, whatever, you'd better let me do so.
 
JimP,

Read the interview again.

Instead you compared similar US counties that had different gun-ownership rates.

The study compared burglary rates within the US and took into account demographic differences.

The correct response is not "This study is flawed" because it may very well be that it is indeed not. Rather, we should say, as tyme pointed out, "so what?"
 
I wonder how exactly they determined what gun ownership rates were? Did they use the infamous Cook's index (named for the Cook in this article) where gun ownership is determined by the number of firearms homicides and firearms suicides reported?

This is why you see all these studies saying gun ownership is linked to increased violence - not because it is linked to increased violence but because they have already decided that increased firearms violence is a direct indicator of gun ownership.
 
He asks: Do you feel safe with a gun in your home? Most people say yes. Then he asks: would you feel safer if your neighbors had guns. Most say no.

I don't know who these "most people" are, but they sure as @#$%^&! don't live in my heavily armed—and safe—neighborhood.
 
. He asks: Do you feel safe with a gun in your home? Most people say yes. Then he asks: would you feel safer if your neighbors had guns. Most say no.
Yeah, I believe that.

"Freedom for me but not for thee" is rampant, recurrent -- and reprehensible.

pax

Liberty is the only thing you cannot have unless you are willing to give it to others. – William Allen White
 
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