Flintknapper
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Magpul MOE on all of mine.
Do you change your AR15 grips and if so, what grip do you like?
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wally
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I like the Hogue grips for my ARs and AKs, whenever I find them on sale I pick up another to swap in eventually.
There are three issues with grips -
length of pull, which is why some prefer the beaver tails, as the push the hand back further from the trigger to allow the pad of the finger on the trigger to fit better. Some feel it aid accuracy in trigger control.
Size of grip, which is much more a comfort issue. As soldiers are human and we have gotten a bit more supersized over the last 50 years, grip sizes are increasing.
Angle of hold, which is related to how the gun will be held, in the prone, or upright and squared up for tactical use.
I found for my small hands the original M16 fit well. When building a 6.8 hunting carbine I tried the Troy and it was close to the same size for my small hands, but both have a similar angle of hold which is biased to an angle preferable to prone shooting.
When I built a AR pistol it was frequently commented on by users of SBR's and pistols that the upright posture and typically squared up orientation forced the grip angle to change to remain comfortable, and a more vertical angle would be preferred. I found a used MOE K locally and tried it out, which did work for the AR pistol as it is shot in a much different manner than a battle rifle. It's also a small diameter.
Since the AR pistol used in the upright posture is meant for close quarters use, long range accuracy and extreme precision shooting is a LOW priority. Whether you have the finger pad or the first knuckle on the trigger is of little benefit, but in close quarters use, hanging on to the gun is. A finger wrapped over the trigger retains a higher degree of grip and overall control.
I used them all with GI milspec flat trigger guards, which aren't sporty looking but are very much functional and don't alter the grip by forcing it lower. Hence the OP's dilemma - he changed the trigger guard and it forces a change in the grip.
Frankly, I see no point in the aftermarket trigger guards unless you have a singularly large index finger, or wear heavy gloves in winter - and the standard GI guard is built to drop down to allow that. Otherwise most seem to have little improvement other than a cosmetic value. As with any changed part or modification, we usually look to the benefit of the overall alteration, but with every change there is always an offsetting disadvantage.
Sometimes you just need to give it up because it doesn't work. Which is why the for-sale forums are full.
length of pull, which is why some prefer the beaver tails, as the push the hand back further from the trigger to allow the pad of the finger on the trigger to fit better. Some feel it aid accuracy in trigger control.
Size of grip, which is much more a comfort issue. As soldiers are human and we have gotten a bit more supersized over the last 50 years, grip sizes are increasing.
Angle of hold, which is related to how the gun will be held, in the prone, or upright and squared up for tactical use.
I found for my small hands the original M16 fit well. When building a 6.8 hunting carbine I tried the Troy and it was close to the same size for my small hands, but both have a similar angle of hold which is biased to an angle preferable to prone shooting.
When I built a AR pistol it was frequently commented on by users of SBR's and pistols that the upright posture and typically squared up orientation forced the grip angle to change to remain comfortable, and a more vertical angle would be preferred. I found a used MOE K locally and tried it out, which did work for the AR pistol as it is shot in a much different manner than a battle rifle. It's also a small diameter.
Since the AR pistol used in the upright posture is meant for close quarters use, long range accuracy and extreme precision shooting is a LOW priority. Whether you have the finger pad or the first knuckle on the trigger is of little benefit, but in close quarters use, hanging on to the gun is. A finger wrapped over the trigger retains a higher degree of grip and overall control.
I used them all with GI milspec flat trigger guards, which aren't sporty looking but are very much functional and don't alter the grip by forcing it lower. Hence the OP's dilemma - he changed the trigger guard and it forces a change in the grip.
Frankly, I see no point in the aftermarket trigger guards unless you have a singularly large index finger, or wear heavy gloves in winter - and the standard GI guard is built to drop down to allow that. Otherwise most seem to have little improvement other than a cosmetic value. As with any changed part or modification, we usually look to the benefit of the overall alteration, but with every change there is always an offsetting disadvantage.
Sometimes you just need to give it up because it doesn't work. Which is why the for-sale forums are full.
Hardtarget
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I have ergo grips on mine but I also added a "Rite grip" adapter to my rifle. It moves the grip down 1/4" and back 3/4". That positions my finger better on the trigger. I've seen the adapter at Midway and Brownell's. Down side is the curve of the grip isn't tight against the rifle frame...but its comfy for me.
Mark
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1KPerDay
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I run ergo grips on mine.
Taurus 617 CCW
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I put a CAA G27 grip on my rifle. They are no longer under that model number. I believe the current variant is made by Mission First Tactical (same model number). My second choice is the Magpul MOE grip. Still a very comfortable grip.
gillmeister692
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I opted for an ERGO Tactical grip. It's tactile (soft) and big enough for an X-LGE glove wearer.
justin22885
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not sure if you AR people have these but on my AKs i like the "saw" grip.. i like the shape, i love the size, they fill my hand nicely and they work well
arspeukinen
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MOE here. The one with finger shelf, makes one-finger gun carrying easier.
On AK, original works.
On AK, original works.
Silver Streak
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I changed out the grip on my M&P to the Magpul K2.
Great product - love the grip angle and it also has a little storage space.
Great product - love the grip angle and it also has a little storage space.
CraigC
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Magpul MIAD. For both size/shape and trigger spacing.
tahunua001
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I use that grip on every one of my ARs and one on my last AK, what do you think?
none that I like quite as much.
why fix what aint broken? I change them one time, from factory to hogue
I have rather large hands and the non beavertail works just fine for me, I don't think you really need to worry about it.
I usually just get them from midway, sometimes if I want something special that people rarely carry I usually go straight to hogue.
justin22885
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those MOE grips look like they use a similar shape to the SAW grip, anyone use both before?
Thanks guys!
I ended up with a BCM Gunfighter Mod 0. Now that I installed it I think it's a little thin. I now ordered a BCM Gunfighter Mod 1 and Mod 2 to try out. I ordered them from opticsplanet and they have a free shipping and return policy. I wish I would have ordered the first one from there before ordering it from BCM which has no free shipping and a restocking fee.
If I have to stick with the BCM Mod 0 it isn't so bad. Fits my small hand but I'd like it to be a little bit longer (distance from front to back, not rounder or wider) to push the pad of my finger right over the trigger. I hope the beavertail will fix that.
I ended up with a BCM Gunfighter Mod 0. Now that I installed it I think it's a little thin. I now ordered a BCM Gunfighter Mod 1 and Mod 2 to try out. I ordered them from opticsplanet and they have a free shipping and return policy. I wish I would have ordered the first one from there before ordering it from BCM which has no free shipping and a restocking fee.
If I have to stick with the BCM Mod 0 it isn't so bad. Fits my small hand but I'd like it to be a little bit longer (distance from front to back, not rounder or wider) to push the pad of my finger right over the trigger. I hope the beavertail will fix that.
I like both the Magpul and Ergo grips. My rifle came with one of these and I've been really happy with it:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/97...p-ar-15-lr-308-ambidextrous-overmolded-rubber
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/97...p-ar-15-lr-308-ambidextrous-overmolded-rubber
GunnyUSMC
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I have found that I prefer the Magpul MOE grip. I don't care much for the plus, just dont like the rubber feel. I do change out a lot of grips for others and most want the MOE Plus.
I tried the Blackhawk grip that mane with a LPK and found it to be to thin for me.
I tried the Magpul K2 grip but didn't like the angle. My 18 year old son broke his wrist a few years ago and finds that the K2 grip is more comfortable for him.
My 12 year old son likes the Magpul SL grip.
I got in one of Strike Industries Patriot Tactical Grip – Enhanced PRO Model. I liked it, but before I was able to put it on one of my rifles a friend came by to dress up his new AR and had to have it.
http://www.strikeindustries.com/sho...iot-tactical-grip-enhanced-pro-model-751.html
I tried the Blackhawk grip that mane with a LPK and found it to be to thin for me.
I tried the Magpul K2 grip but didn't like the angle. My 18 year old son broke his wrist a few years ago and finds that the K2 grip is more comfortable for him.
My 12 year old son likes the Magpul SL grip.
I got in one of Strike Industries Patriot Tactical Grip – Enhanced PRO Model. I liked it, but before I was able to put it on one of my rifles a friend came by to dress up his new AR and had to have it.
http://www.strikeindustries.com/sho...iot-tactical-grip-enhanced-pro-model-751.html
Creature
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It will.
Blade First
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Have used Hogue, MOE, MOE+, MIAD, Ergo, Bravo and others for years...just depends on what works best for the owner. Lately have experimented with Daniel Defense's grip on personal builds and like it a lot. A bit inconvenient for those who like to beat on roll pins. 
Zerodefect
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Moe+ I think. I like the newer grips that have less of an angle. For shorter stock settings. If they had one with a straight down 90 degree grip, I'd try that.
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