do you even med kit bro?

[Blkhrt13]

Do you add medical training to your prepping and firearms training? This is part of why I'm trying save up and not buying more guns. Because I need more training both in tactics for shooting and to help learn more of what to do if an accident happens or in any other worst case scenario.


http://darkangelmedical.com/

 

[Jeff White]

I think all shooters need to know basic trauma care and have a good first aid kit readily available.

 

[grampajack]

Shooting is not an inherently dangerous activity, statistically speaking. You're more likely to need first aid skills for a traffic accident on the way to the gun range.

 

[Jeff White]

Shooting is not an inherently dangerous activity, statistically speaking. You're more likely to need first aid skills for a traffic accident on the way to the gun range.

If you carry a gun for defensive use, then you are anticipating it's use. So a basic kit (we used to call them blow out kits) is a necessity. For self aid and the aid of others.

Also many people shoot or hunt in remote areas where EMS response can be 20 minutes or more away. A little basic knowledge and a few basic first aid items can mean the difference between life and death.

In my younger years I used to jump from perfectly good airplanes every weekend. Just because the drive to and from the drop zone was statistically more dangerous then jumping wasn't a reason not to do safety checks on my equipment.

 

[grampajack]

If you carry a gun for defensive use, then you are anticipating it's use. So a basic kit (we used to call them blow out kits) is a necessity. For self aid and the aid of others.

Also many people shoot or hunt in remote areas where EMS response can be 20 minutes or more away. A little basic knowledge and a few basic first aid items can mean the difference between life and death.

In my younger years I used to jump from perfectly good airplanes every weekend. Just because the drive to and from the drop zone was statistically more dangerous then jumping wasn't a reason not to do safety checks on my equipment.

That's like saying you should carry bandaids everywhere just because you carry a pocket knife. I'm not saying it's a bad idea for everyone to be Red Cross certified, but I think we're taking the whole thing a bit too far carrying quick clot and tourniquets everywhere.

 

[Blkhrt13]

We all prepare for the worst and hope we never see it. Or not and watch someone die.

 

[CapnMac]

A class is a good thing. Especially with any sorts of demonstrations; class participation is also to be sought out.

Go check out InRangeTV for a sobering experience along these lines. Karl got to practice first aid on Ian (wound up being minor, but with copiuos bleeding).

Staying calm and being able to map out how to get dressings in place are critical skills.

 

[CapnMac]

perfectly good airplanes

No such thin exists--ask any Plane Captain or Crew Chief

Except helicopters. They don't actually fly so much as the ground repels them.

 

[Hanzo581]

I do have a trauma kit that has some quikclot, but I have been wanting to sign up for some emergency med classes.

Wait, are you asking if you carry it on you? No, I do not carry a med kit on me all the time.

 

[herrwalther]

About a decade ago, the Army looked at all the wounds of modern warfare and narrowed down the must have items for every soldier to have on patrol regardless of job. An easy to use one hand tourniquet, Quick clot gauze or pressure bandage, nasal pharyngeal, medical tape, and gloves. And these supplies, along with whatever your friendly neighborhood medic would carry would keep a patient stable enough for several hours depending on injury severity. With EMT response times in most of America you are looking at less than an hour for advanced medical help. So a pouch with a tourniquet, a pressure bandage, AND THE TRAINING TO USE THEM is all you are likely to need.

 

[Blkhrt13]

I do have a trauma kit that has some quikclot, but I have been wanting to sign up for some emergency med classes.

Wait, are you asking if you carry it on you? No, I do not carry a med kit on me all the time.

I'm more asking if anyone has it on the radar

 

[grampajack]

I do have a trauma kit that has some quikclot, but I have been wanting to sign up for some emergency med classes.

Wait, are you asking if you carry it on you? No, I do not carry a med kit on me all the time.

Clotting agent is very handy to have around anyways. It saved me from having to get stitches the other day. I couldn't stop the bleeding without cutting off the circulation, and had I not had the clotting agent I would have been looking at a very expensive ER bill. Luckily the local pharmacy had some, and I had someone there to go get it for me since I was in no shape to drive.

Thing is though it took A LOT of it to treat a relatively minor cut (minor compared to a gunshot wound). I mean seriously, 75% of the people on this forum complain about carrying a .380 in the summer. Do we really think it's realistic to carry a giant bag of clotting agent around all the time?

 

[ants]

I'm more asking if anyone has it on the radar

Good question, brother.

Also good questions:
If you have a kit (or you get one soon), how often do you refresh the contents?
If you get training, how often do you take a refresher course?

No wrong answers to any of these, all answers are personal choice. Blkhrt is just asking opinions. Me too.

 

[Blkhrt13]

Good question, brother.

Another good question: If you have a kit (or you get one soon), how often do you refresh the contents?

No wrong answer to any of these, all answers are personal choice.

I'm familiar with DarkAngel because a friend of my who trains and does consulting work swears by them. They are also quick to help their customers.

 

[herrwalther]

If you have a kit (or you get one soon), how often do you refresh the contents?
If you get training, how often do you take a refresher course?

In general, most clotting agents have a shelf life of about 36 months. Brand and type may vary. Bandages and anything vacuum sealed only need replacing if the package is broken. A yearly refresher is a good basis on first aid and CPR classes.

 

[Blkhrt13]

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...-review-dark-angel-medicals-d-r-k-trauma-kit/

 

[Blkhrt13]

The above link discusses the D.A.R.K and the expiration on the Quick clot. These are all things to consider for those that consider it a wise idea.

 

[grampajack]

OP, if it floats your boat, do it. But I don't think you have any ethical obligation to whatsoever.

 

[strangelittleman]

I generally carry a few Spider-Man bandages & some lollipops for boo-boos. If those fail, I have a small zip-lock bag of dirt so I can just rub dirt in the boo-boo and get back in the game.

 

[Blkhrt13]

I used to keep a full red cross very for cpr and first aid. I need to find someone that offers that here.

 

[Averageman]

I keep a basic IFK in my range bag, a more advance kit in the truck and something in between those two in my BOB.
I received some very good training in the Military, I would suppose a refresher wouldn't hurt.
I will look for something local and get some more training, perhaps the Red Cross?

 

[Snyper]

First aid training is always good.
It has no special relationship to guns in particular.

I qualified for a Red Cross Advanced First Aid card when I was about 13.
It doesn't require spending a fortune, and there's nothing a class will teach you that can't be learned on your own by reading.

 

[Blkhrt13]

First aid training is always good.
It has no special relationship to guns in particular.

I qualified for a Red Cross Advanced First Aid card when I was about 13.
It doesn't require spending a fortune, and there's nothing a class will teach you that can't be learned on your own by reading.

I don't know man an accidental gsw is a good reason to have training

 

[MedWheeler]

I'm already a working EMT, and have been for over 25 years. I used to be good about carrying a "Randy Rescue" kit in my truck, but have slacked at replacing gear when it degrades or expires. Definitely something I should be giving some more thought to...

When I did, it included a tourniquet, triangular bandages, CPR mask, blood-pressure cuff and stethoscope, various trauma dressings and bandages, some Kling, OP airways, and gloves. I guess if I put it back together, I'll probably add a quick-clotting agent.

When I used to ride with an off-road club, I had that kit, plus various-sized splinting boards and a spineboard with straps on board as well. That was quite a long time back, maybe 1992 or so.

 

[grampajack]

I don't know man an accidental gsw is a good reason to have training

An accidental gunshot wound is way less likely than an intentional one, and your chances of encountering either as a non EMT/paramedic are very slim. I think your efforts would be better spent on general first aid and CPR. You're more likely to play good Samaritan to a car crash victim, someone hurt with yard equipment, or most likely, someone having a heart attack, diabetic coma, seizure, asthma attack, allergic reaction, choking, drug overdose, etc.