Do you like "loaded chamber indicators" on your pistols?

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To verify if I'm cocked and lock for carry:

I never trust them and honestly never look at them, period. Press checks work for me. I always pinch the slide with my support hand's index finger and thumb from underneath, finger off the trigger, muzzle in a safe direction, off hand never in front of the muzzle and peek in for a rim.

To verify I'm unloaded:

Never even look at the indicator...safe direction, finger off the trigger and rack it a few times before a visual chamber inspection.

I could care less if they are on the firearm. I do not however like the gigantic ones with red paint and warning labels stamped all over. Stop stamping warnings on my firearms!!!!!! While we're at it...I also hate all the permenant idiot labels they stick on our cars (sun-visors in particular) these days.
 
I would err on the side of safety and presume that every gun I pick up or is handed to me is in fact loaded.
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I use an LCI to prevent accidental "clicks," not accidental "booms."

My HD/CCW is always loaded. When I pick it up in its IWB from the nightstand, I know it's loaded. But the LCI is nice to have. It's right there, telling me "Yup, it's still chambered," when I put it on for CCW. I don't have to completely draw and manipulate a loaded gun every day just to verify it's still loaded.

If you don't trust an LCI for that, then how about at the range? At the range, I typically have a Glock in a paddle holster, despite what other guns I'm shooting. Sometimes it's chambered, sometimes it's not. Sometimes it goes back in the holster completely empty while I load mags and/or another gun. When I've loaded a mag, sometimes I slip one in the gun without unholstering (hence empty chamber) and resume loading more mags. Then I might shoot my rifle or revolver for a spell. When getting ready to shoot the Glock, it's nice to be able to feel if it's loaded, right in the holster, even before I get to the firing line. That way I don't go to the firing line, quick draw, aim, and get an embarrassing click. You'd think Hickok45 would have figured this one out by now. :)
 
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hate the durn things. one more thing to take your mind off the task (dangerous) at hand. one more law to protect me from myself (otherwise known as control). the only safety i use is the one between my ears. it's the only one i trust.

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Only gun I can think of that I own that has the LCI is my Springfield "Champion" 1911...a tiny notch where you can see the brass.
 
Ok. With your revolvers, have you ever noticed a flash of brass between the recoil shield and the back of the cylinder? That's all some LCI's do. Most LCI's are ok in my book, but there are some badly designed ones.
 
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"All guns are always loaded" Loaded chamber indicators make about as much sense as built in trigger locks. They operate on the basic assumption that you don't really know what you're doing - in which case you have no business handling firearms.
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"All guns are always loaded"
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So pick it up. Put it in your holster. Go about your day, assuming it's loaded. Good plan. :)

Bad guys don't fall over because you adhered to safety rule #1. You actually have to load it.

I agree an LCI isn't an effective safety feature. But they can be useful, nonetheless. Instead of decreasing accidental "booms," they're more useful for preventing unexpected "clicks." I'm sure we've all had a couple of those.

They operate on the basic assumption that you don't really know what you're doing - in which case you have no business handling firearms.
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I know how to fill a gas tank. Yeah, I could open up the tank and put a dipstick in it every time I get in the car. But it's easier to read the gauge.
 
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My gun hd/sd has something in the chamber, period. If the gun is together, it is loaded and ready to go. I don't need an LCI, they are loaded. An unloaded gun is a hammer (of which I have several in the closet, but they aren't the ones I'm going to reach for either).

Bad guys don't fall over because you adhered to safety rule #1. You actually have to load it.
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- True, but I do load it. I never unload it. The only time it gets unloaded is when I am emptying it the fun way. I don't assume its loaded because of rule #1, I know it's loaded becuase I don't unload it and I always make sure to load it before it gets put away.
 
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I don't happen to own any guns with a loaded chamber indicator. Don't really care about that feature and neither seek it or intentionally avoid it.
 
It doesn't matter to me one way or the other if the gun has one or not. I as well as anyone else that carries a gun should know the status of their guns at all times. Of course the rules should be followed, and they should always be treated as if they are loaded. I know that my guns are loaded (with a real bullet in them) unless I am cleaning, repairing, or dry firing etc. Otherwise they are locked and loaded and ready to go.
 
I don't mind them if they aren't excessive, what I hate worse are the read the manual warnings stamped into the frame, the LC9 is the perfect example of a gun I'll never buy.
 
As GLOOB said:
I use an LCI to prevent accidental "clicks," not accidental "booms."
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So pick it up. Put it in your holster. Go about your day, assuming it's loaded. Good plan.

Bad guys don't fall over because you adhered to safety rule #1. You actually have to load it.

I agree an LCI isn't an effective safety feature. But they can be useful, nonetheless. Instead of decreasing accidental "booms," they're more useful for preventing unexpected "clicks." I'm sure we've all had a couple of those.
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I love the ones you can feel. I don't know why you guys are like "I wouldn't trust it." and stuff like that. It's operation is the simplest thing ever. Such as the one on the XD/XDm, it's just a lever than pivots. It is not going to fail, it is not going to indicate a false empty chamber.
 
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+1 Gloob.



I press check my Sig P220 for duty-everyday I work, even though it is always in my locked locker and no on else has access to it.


I never unload it, but I always check because I always want to be sure it's loaded. A cut-away LCI like the SW Bodyguard .380 would be nice on it.

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+1 Gloob.



I press check my Sig P220 for duty-everyday I work, even though it is always in my locked locker and no on else has access to it.


I never unload it, but I always check because I always want to be sure it's loaded. A cut-away LCI like the SW Bodyguard .380 would be nice on it.

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I think it depends on how it is done. On a Ruger Mk III, it is a pain in the neck to have to clean around it. The only gun I currently own which has a loaded chamber indicator is a P-64. That I don't mind at all, it's just a little pin that sticks out the back of the slide when loaded. I still press-check.
 
Three of my handguns have LCIs. The LCP's little port to see the brass is okay, my T740 has a discreet pop up on top of the slide you can feel in the dark and my SR9 has a great big gawdawful pop up, with 'loaded chamber' or some such on it. When I see it I expect to hear a warning siren to go with it. I don't mind the first two but the SR9 sure could use something a bit more discreet.
 
I don't have anything against them, I just don't really rely on them. I feel I was taught handgun safety well and I also don't completely trust them.
 
Generally don't care, but I definitely don't want anything that adds parts. The S&W M&P's barrel notch is and I've used it once in a while.
 
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