Do you wear hearing protection when hunting?

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It's interesting how many people think it doesn't matter, because "it's just one shot". As if you magically get a pass.

Until this thread i actually thought most did wear hearing protection. Lol.

I think most who don't wear them don't know any better. Those of us who do know, basically consider it an acceptable compromise. It's a fact that it's possible for a person to hunt big game (meaning 1-5 shots/year w/o hearing protection) for their entire lives using a non magnum caliber and suffer no real significant hearing loss.

I have to sit through a class every year on it. Plus I had to sit through videos showing my people the same info every year on the situation. Even singular noise over 120 decibel just once can and does cause damage. No your not deaf... but damage is done. Even a 22 magnum is over 120 decibel could be more of your beside a tree or something. It can be significant. Can be minor.

Any loss is significant when you hear ringing all the time. I wish I'd have worn more ear protection.


Keep telling yourself that.

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You disagree, I assume? Do you know of someone who only fired a non magnum firearm less than 5 times/ year without hearing protection that now has significant (that's bolded for a reason) hearing loss that can be attributed to said firing?

Hmm, sounds like you are searching for a definition of "significance" and on that we will undoubtedly differ. When you say significant, do you mean statistically significant? Do you mean for 'significant' to comprise more than half of the hearing available hearing being lost? Maybe 25% lost? Is significance when it impacts your lifestyle? Is significance when somebody is legally considered deaf (Generally occurs at the 'severe' level of loss)? The reason why I ask is because "significant" isn't a classification for hearing loss. Mild, moderate, severe, and profound are, however. Some groups also add in a 5th, 'moderately severe.'

If it is measurable loss, then it is significant, according to my audiologist. She sees it that way because hearing doesn't recover. You don't test at a Moderate loss level, drink some power drinks for 6 weeks and come back and retest at the Mild level. It is gone.

I would argue that if you can't hear any of the tones that you should be able to hear for your age bracket, you have significant loss. You may have significant loss even if you can hear them, assuming you had better than average hearing to start. Until about 10 years ago, my hearing was one age bracket better than average for my age, though with slight right ear deficit (could not hear one of the tones I could hear in the left ear). Now, I have mild hearing loss

To answer your query, I certainly can't match the exact parameters you have stated and neither do you. Neither your or I have a way to control for a sample of people that incur no other auditory insults during their lives other than 1-5 times per year while hunting. Even if we did, neither of us has the data from these individuals as to what their hearing was like (fully tested) before they got into guns. If you don't know the starting point for each, then you can't say for certain how much loss has occurred. That is a reality. All that they can determine is how a person hears at the time of the test and compare that with demographic averages.

However, shooting a centerfire non-magnum rifle without hearing protection will damage you hearing with every shot. You likely won't recognize it is even happening. I have known several deer hunters who only fire a few times a year (until tagged out on deer) and who don't wear hearing protection while hunting. All of them have measurable hearing loss. None of them shoot magnums that I know of, one shooting a 30/30 and the other shooting .308 that I know of. The last guy shoots a Grendel now but using to shoot a .243. Two wear hearing aids. Two others, I have no idea what they shoot, but I don't think they are magnums. One guy told me that he didn't realize how much hearing loss he had until he had trouble hearing the coos of his grandbaby. Despite the fact that he doesn't wear hearing aids and generally has normal conversations with people, not being able to hear his granddaughter very well has definitely been significant for him.
 
@Double Naught Spy, Hit the nail with that explanation. Long ago in my senior year of college I had a Girlfriend studying audiology. I volunteered for a hearing test and was informed that my ability to hear certain tones was gone already. One can ignore the issue like I did or wise up and take care of their hearing. It does not come back at all on it's own...
 
If have noticeable hearing loss and tinnitus. I never fired centerfire handguns without hearing protection. Never went to the range without muffs and/or plugs. I didn't go to war. It's all from field use and plinking. Never wore hearing protection hunting with rifles or handguns. The plinking was mostly .22's and 12ga shotguns. For years I had the same mentality that many here seem to have, "it's just one shot" or "it's just a .22". Some folks seem hellbent on learning the hard way. Once it's gone, it's gone and it doesn't come back. Ringing in your ears 24/7 is not pleasant either. Once you have damage, you're much more sensitive to noise. When I put a brake on one of my AR's, I had to upgrade my earpro to make it comfortable to shoot. These days, I've got three suppressors, with three more in the pipeline and nearly everything I buy has a threaded muzzle. I NEVER fail to use earpro, even with .22 rifles. The only time I do not use hearing protection is when shooting subsonic .22's through a suppressor.
 
You disagree, I assume? Do you know of someone who only fired a non magnum firearm less than 5 times/ year without hearing protection that now has significant (that's bolded for a reason) hearing loss that can be attributed to said firing?
Yes. Me.

I used to wear hearing protection at the range, but "it was too much trouble" when hunting and besides "I'll only fire a couple of shots". I'd fired without hearing protection while hunting, and while my ears would ring for a couple of hours, it would always clear up after a while.

Until it didn't. Two shots with a 30-06 rifle at a pig and my ears rang like normal. That was 25 years ago and they're still ringing. All the time, 24/7/365.

I always wear electronic muffs now, because I certainly don't want it to get any louder. If you don't think tinnitus counts as significant hearing loss, you don't have it. Yet.
 
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It's been a while since I've read the DEC hunting regs, but I don't recall a prohibition on electronic muffs. Can you point me to that language?

I couldn't find anything so I emailed nysdec specifically asking about electronic earmuffs. Their reply was there is no longer any regulation prohibiting their use so perfectly legal. Might have to rethink my hunting ear protection now.
 
Hmm, sounds like you are searching for a definition of "significance" and on that we will undoubtedly differ. When you say significant, do you mean statistically significant? Do you mean for 'significant' to comprise more than half of the hearing available hearing being lost? Maybe 25% lost? Is significance when it impacts your lifestyle? Is significance when somebody is legally considered deaf (Generally occurs at the 'severe' level of loss)? The reason why I ask is because "significant" isn't a classification for hearing loss. Mild, moderate, severe, and profound are, however. Some groups also add in a 5th, 'moderately severe.' ...

EXCELLENT POST Double Naught Spy! I've had this conversation a couple of times on a couple of forums. Almost always it goes the same way, with someone making a similar statement that if one only fires a few rounds, there won't be "significant" hearing damage. You explained clearly why, in this context, "significant" means nothing, better than I've ever seen it done.

When I hunted, back in the dark ages, no one wore ear pro, not even at the range. We just didn't know how serious it was and there wasn't any technology to help us. As a result, I now wear hearing aids, especially in noisy environments.

If I was to hunt today, I'd wear my 3M Peltor TEP-100's with Skull Screw communication tips. They're in-the-ear and amplified, so I can hear what's going on around me very well, they afford hearing protection, and they don't interfere with the stock of my rifle.

Thanks, BH
 
Slim electronic muffs are great when hunting or at the range. You can hear more in the woods than without them and have protection from gunshot noise. I really wish they existed affordably when I was younger. I was good about using ear plugs or muffs at ranges or using any kind of power equipment, but didn't give too much thought about it when hunting. Not so great the day the ringing didn't stop. Had tinnitus for years now. It's mild thankfully and generally don't notice except in a quite room or still day outside. Have to have a fan or other background noise to sleep though :(
 
Just realized my Peltor Tac 7s are over 20 years old ... and still work great! Think I bought them in 2000. I double them up with foam plugs at the range.
 
I usually don’t while hunting but I know I should. I’d like to find a pair of electronic in ear buds that are comfortable and work. That way I can wear them the whole time. Because I know from experience that I’ll leave foam or silicone plugs in my pocket or around my neck and forget to put them on.
 
I use hearing protection always when hunting. Never used to, and was very cavalier about hearing loss even in the army.Then one day I woke up with godawful tinnitus. Screeching in in one ear, swishing noise behind the head, high pitched whistle right through the skull, crickets in the background and rushing noise in the other ear. I remember when I went to the ear specialist and they asked "what type of tinnitus sound do you hear?" and I said " All of them" : D
 
I started shooting trap at a very young age. My dad insisted that I wear good muffs.
Ironically, I started driving big diesel tractors about the same time. If they were too loud , just crank the radio up.
Electronic ear muffs are the bomb-dizzle! I know muffs are bulky and much less portable than plugs. But if I'm going to be shooting even just a few rounds, I grab the electronic muffs. I have seen the for $40 from Natchez. If you don't have them...do yourself a favor and buy them for yourself and your family and friends. You easily hear conversations and then block out the loud stuff. It's amazing!
To answer the OP question...nope...I don't wear plugs when hunting. Only handgun hunting...but I haven't done that for years.
 
I use electronic earmuffs with a microphone on each ear. They amplify sounds around and totally protect when shooting my 50 cal muzzleloader. Before getting them, I used ear plugs with a cord that I could easily place them before taking a shot.
 
If you wear the cylindrical foam ear plugs, it's virtually impossible to insert them quickly in time to take a shot at game. It's more than just shoving them into the ear.

Here's a video from 3M that describes the procedure. I've come across few folks who do it properly. If they're not inserted properly, they don't provide protection.

 
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If you wear the cylindrical foam ear plugs, it's virtually impossible to insert them quickly in time to take a shot at game. It's more than just shoving them into the ear.

Here's a video from 3M that describes the procedure. It's I've come across few folks who do it properly. It they're not inserted properly, they don't provide protection.


That's why I like the silicone ones for hunting. You simply pop them in and you're good to go. No rolling, reaching over your head, and waiting for them to expand. I do use them at the range though, since they are supposed to protect better than any other ear plug design that I'm aware of.

I can say that most people at the range have no idea how to properly insert them. I've seen a few people place them sideways in their outer ear with none of the plug inside of the ear canal. They were essentially not wearing anything.
 
Back in the mists of time when I was a youth I used to shoot a lot of wood pigeons. Then there was pheasant shooting, and over 50 years I've shot a lot of deer. plus not forgeting all the years I worked in the concrete repair game. Apart shooting on the range I never wore ear protection. A, because it was not common to wear ear protection and B, stupidity.
So suprise, suprise at coming up to 74 years old I'm a deaf old git. Looking back my hearing started to get noticeably worse 30+ years ago.
But I have been wearing ear protection for over 20 years to save the hearing I've got left. Can't remember the last time I heard a bird sing.
Just remember that when you loose your hearing its gone for good.
Poor hearing, poor eyesight and a week bladder are the joys of getting old. Poor hearing can be avoided and if I had listened to my mother perhaps my eye sight would still be good ;).
 
No, I never have, but I am typically only going to take one shot when hunting so its not a high round count. I only wear hearing protection at the range.

None of my hunting rifles have a muzzle brake though (and never will - I'd rather take pain on my shoulder than pain in my ears).
 
None of my hunting rifles have a muzzle brake though (and never will - I'd rather take pain on my shoulder than pain in my ears).
None of my rifles have muzzle brakes either. I do have a PAST recoil shield though as well as several different types and brands of hearing protection. However, it's been so long since I've even seen that recoil shield, I'd have a hard time finding it. And even though there's little doubt I have a pair of foam ear plugs in one of my hunting jacket/vest pockets (there's a pair of foam ear plugs in the pockets of most every jacket/vest I own), I never wear them while hunting either.
BTW, those foam ear plugs get really clean in the washing machine. My wife always says something like, "You forgot to check your pockets again!" though. ;)
 
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