DoD Surplus Expended Brass Sales Policy Change Thread

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To keep the chaos down lets use this as the "official" Activism thread on this topic.

I'll remind everyone right off the bat that his is not a discussion forum.

If you just want to shout and complain this isn't the place for it.

This is where we make a conscious effort to get things done and you can't get much done with endless carping and complaining, so let's stay focused on working.



The word is out all over THR and the other firearms sites that Georgia Arms received a notice from one of their suppliers of government surplus fired small arms brass that all casings had to be mutilated before they could be removed from the site. This means that the brass is rendered unusable for remanufacture/reloading. We've verified that another company that purchases government surplus expended small arms brass received a similar notice stating the same requirements from a separate supplier.

We don't know why the US government directed their surplus sellers to do this and it may not matter. What we do know is that as a community we should work to get this decision reversed.



Here's a proposed plan of action.

Email, call, visit and snail mail your elected officials about this issue. Points to focus on are in the example letter below, but ranting and raving isn't advisable.

Go to congress.org and identify your elected officials in Congress and State Legislatures. Your State Legislators are important because they also have constituents that will be impacted by this (shooter that won't be able to purchase reloadable brass/remanufactured ammo, LE organizations who depend upon purchasing less expensive remanufactured ammo to be able to afford to train, and in some cases employers who use the brass who will have to lay off workers who were previously gainfully employed and paying taxes).


Congress.org allows users to:

* Identify and contact elected leaders in Congress, the White House, and state legislatures
* Post letters online in Letters to Leaders and read what other Americans are saying to elected officials
* Create and post Soapbox action alerts to enlist others on your issue.
* Have letters printed and hand-delivered to Congress (there is a fee for this service)
* Find and contact local and national media by ZIP code or by state with Media Guide
* Have your representative's votes sent to you weekly via e-mail
* Search alerts and take action in the Issues and Calls to Action area (contact Capitol Advantage to get your organization's alerts on Congress.org, Yahoo!, MSN, AOL and other sites).



Feel free to send some version of the following message to ALL your state legislators and congresscritters by mail, email and phone calls. Visit them if possible.

Honorable XXXYYY,

As a constituent I was disgusted to recently read of another example of government waste of the taxpayer dollars and the destruction of American jobs.

The ammunition manufacturing industry has been purchasing expended small arms brass cartridge casings surplussed through the Defense Reutilization and Marketing Service (DRMS) for the sale of surplus and scrap assets of the United States Department of Defense (DOD) for years. This has allowed companies to keep citizens gainfully employed reusing the surplussed brass to produce ammunition for civilian and law enforcement users and has allowed the government to earn higher sale prices than other brass scrap not suitable for reuse.

A recent change requiring "mutilation" of the surplussed brass cartridge casings will effectively destroy that industry and reduce the value of the material being sold by the government. It will also deny your constituents who shoot and the local and state law enforcement organizations that depended upon this inexpensive source of ammunition to train their officers a steady source of ammunition. In these hard economic times it is inconceivable that a decision like this would be allowed to stand when American jobs will be lost and already strained budgets will be further pushed to the breaking point to purchase more expensive ammunition sources. The loss of additional revenue to the government that reusable brass brings over mutilated scrap may be considerable as well.

In addition, reuse of surplus brass is a more environmentally sound management approach. It saves scarce resources and conserves energy when compared to recycling of mutilated materials.

Please act now to reinstate the rules that have been in place for years to allow expended small arms brass to be surplussed and sold for reuse without mutilation. This is a far more economically and environmentally sound approach than allowing the new requirement for mutilation of such brass to stand.

Please see http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=2272021&convertTo=USD and http://silverbids.com/?tag=surplus-brass for more information if you are unaware of the changes.

Regards,

YYYYXXXX
 
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Another example plan from theshootist.net by THR members to use to craft your own.

What can you do?

Google "contact members of Congress" or simply type in http://www.congress.org/.
When you reach that site, type in your zip code--it will give you all your representatives, senators, and their web pages.

Or you can find the addresses and e-mails of your own senators and congressmen by going to http://www.senate.gov/ and http://www.house.gov/. Both pages have locator aids at the top of the page.



Here is a letter I just sent to Representative Bill Cassidy, Congressman from the 6th District of Louisiana, and Senator David Vitter of Louisiana. I will be sending it to every member of our congressional delegation. Feel free to copy it and paste in your own e-mail, sending it to your legislators.

We have to stop this now!


The Honorable Bill Cassidy
Member of Congress from Louisiana

Dear Congressman Cassidy:

It has come to my attention that the Department of Defense has issued a directive that all expended military brass (fired cases) will now be shredded and sold for scrap material, rather than resold by Government Liquidators LLC to the civilian market for remanufacture.

You may not be aware of it, but there is a severe shortage of ammunition available for sale to the public across the country, causing problems for shooters, hunters, and reloaders everywhere.

Now, apparently the Obama administration, realizing they cannot move against private firearms ownership since the landmark decision by the U.S. Supreme Court in the Washington D.C./Heller case, has made their move in another way.

By cutting off the resale of expended military ammunition to remanufacturers, they have put a stranglehold on the nation's ammunition supply.

Further, they have reduced the return to the government on expended brass by 80%. What was sold for remanufacturer at a fair return to the government, will now cost the taxpayers untold sums of money as the cost of scrap brass is far below the price per pound for expended military ammunition.

In addition, the use of remanufactured ammunition is a huge asset to law enforcement agencies across the country who buy millions of rounds of reloaded ammunition a year from these manufacturers for practice rounds.

With this market gone, law enforcement will no longer be able to purchase inexpensive reloaded ammunition, and with the continuing combat status of military forces across the Middle East, original manufacturers of new ammunition are turning out everything they can make to the government, thus exacerbating the shortage of new ammunition in both the civilian and law enforcement market.

Lastly, in these harsh economic times, does it not strike you as cold and calculating that the Obama administration has no compunction against ruining an industry that employs thousands of American citizens in the remanufacturing of sporting and military ammunition. One major resupplier, Georgia Arms, the fifth largest manufacturer of centerfire pistol and rifle ammunition has informed me he will have to quickly lay off half his 60-person workforce, as he has had to cancel contracts with dozens of police agencies who had contracted with him to supply them with remanufactured .223 ammunition.

Georgia Arms has been practically put out of business by this directive that all expended military brass must be shredded. His current contracts have been canceled, and he is notifying his customers across the country he can no longer supply their ammunition needs.

Please look into this immediately. This move by the Obama administration is nothing but a back-door strike against firearms ownership in this country--if shooters can't buy ammunition, the guns are little better than steel clubs--and this is obviously the intent.

Thank you for your time and efforts in this serious attack against the Second Amendment rights of the American citizenry.

Sincerely,

Gordon Hutchinson

Author "The Great New Orleans Gun Grab"

Firearms Columnist for Louisiana, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Mississippi Sportsman magazines.
 
Last night I wrote a buncha letters and what not.
wrote an email to a few news station. I don't know if they will want a part of it at all.
 
You going to provide them for others to use here or are you just letting us know you did something?
 
I just now spoke with my congressman's staffer and got his direct email address. I emailed the URLs to him and because discussions of costs are pertinent I also included this:

"This is a loss of income to the federal government. The usable cartridge cases are of higher value than junk brass, and the mutilation cannot be done without some expenditure of funds. It also means that reloaders have a lessened supply, and new, unfired cartridge cases are expensive--which increases the financial burden of a legitimate activity."
 
I used congress.org on this issue - worked great!

I sent "HSO's" first letter to my two Senators, to my House Rep and to Pres. Obama. I did not see mods' Eatman and HSO's web links to include in the letter, but you should do so who come after me.

For those of you who haven't used www.congress.org yet, here're a few pointers to make it easy and fast:

- Enter your "Zip Code + 4" in the field - it skips a step about which House of Reps district you are in, in most cases. If you don't know your last 4 digits, look at just about any bill or piece of junk mail you receive at your residence.

- After you click on the link for the Senator or Rep, click the tab for "Letters" or "Contact" and look for the "Contact via Web Form" link and click the link

- After you fill out the form however you want, be sure to click the "Remember Me" check-box down near the bottom; next time you come back using the same computer, all your personal info will be filled out already

- To cycle back and send to the next lawmaker, just put your Zip Code + 4 again in the field for it on the final page of the previous message you just finished sending, then press "Go"; in this way, I sent the remaining three messages in well under a minute each.
 
Folks,

I'll remind you that this is not a discussion forum.

We have a General and a Legal and even an Activism Discussion forum.

Until the auctions of scrap small arms brass change back to "no mutilation required" we will continue to refine and execute this plan.
 
Thanks to your voice, DOD has rescinded the order to mutilate all spent cases as of 4:30 pm on 3/17/09. We appreciate the time and effort that you expended, together we all made a difference. We will be posting the email we received from DOD as well as any additional information within the next 12-16 hours. Thanks so much and lets get to work!!! Posted on Georgia Arms website.
 
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