does savage still make an AR? specifically a 308 ar? (I'm hunting a small frame AR10)

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does savage still make the msr? I don't see it on their website.

I find myself looking more closely at small frame ar's and I saw a post on some forum that called the savage 308 AR a small frame.

currently my short list includes the :
dark storm ds-25 (yet to be released)
pof rogue (reports of poor qc)
the palmetto px10 (which appears to be something of vaporware)
trying to cobble together something based off the dpms gen 2 pattern (dicey)

all the other small frame ar's I can see are well over $2k....
 
Buy the POF Rogue. I have a Rogue and owned a Revolution. Only sold the Revolution after I bought the much lighter Rogue. Initially my Rogue would not cycle suppressed. It was over-gassed and when I got in touch with POF, they recommended adding their adjustable gas block before I sent it back to them. After confirming that the rifle was perfectly reliable without the suppressor, I ordered Dictator gas block and my rifle has been 100% reliable since then.

I am extremely satisfied with my Rogue at this point and I can’t imagine buying any other 308 AR when weight/size is a concern.

POF’s customer service left a little to be desired initially, but I honestly feel like they are just over-whelmed with questions and info requests. Once I got someone on the phone, they took good care of me.
 
David Hoback said:
Why do you want a SM? Building is better. And 80% are better yet! :thumbup::D
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Maybe he wants a factory warranty. Maybe he has no desire to build. Maybe he wants a rifle which can’t be built from available parts (like the POF Rogue). Maybe he isn’t a gun tinkerer. There’s all sorts of reasons to buy rather than build depending on the product desired and the end user.
 
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marksman13 said:
Maybe he wants a factory warranty. Maybe he has no desire to build. Maybe he wants a rifle which can’t be built from available parts (like the POF Rogue). Maybe he isn’t a gun tinkerer. There’s all sorts of reasons to buy rather than build depending on the product desired and the end user.
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if SM is Savage Msr, it interested me because it is the only factory ar10 that is on a small frame. that I know of (if it is really a small frame)
As to why a factory gun as opposed to building: mostly it is that there is no standard for small frame 308. or even ar10. it can be done, but it's trickier.
 
greyling22 said:
if SM is Savage Msr, it interested me because it is the only factory ar10 that is on a small frame. that I know of (if it is really a small frame)
As to why a factory gun as opposed to building: mostly it is that there is no standard for small frame 308. or even ar10. it can be done, but it's trickier.
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I know that feeling. I intended to build my own, but came across a good deal on a lightly used PSA10 Gen2 with some extras thrown in on top that was too good to pass up.
 
I am trying to decide between a savage, a used dpms g2 or a POF. The only one I’ve handled is a dpms g2. If someone handed you one in the dark you would have no idea it’s not an AR15. The savage is from what I read about a lb heavier, but I like the look of the monolithic handgaurd. POF looks real nice and the only current production, but also the most expensive.

My dream rifle is a dpms g2 hunter in 338 federal, but I’ve been looking for one a long time and never seen one or even heard of anyone that ever had one.
 
someguy2800 said:
I am trying to decide between a savage, a used dpms g2 or a POF. The only one I’ve handled is a dpms g2. If someone handed you one in the dark you would have no idea it’s not an AR15. The savage is from what I read about a lb heavier, but I like the look of the monolithic handgaurd. POF looks real nice and the only current production, but also the most expensive.

My dream rifle is a dpms g2 hunter in 338 federal, but I’ve been looking for one a long time and never seen one or even heard of anyone that ever had one.
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The main reason I bought my POF Rogue is that I picked it up off the rack at a gun store and said to my wife, “This is one of the lightest AR-15s I have ever had my hands on.” Then, I noticed the extremely large magwell and realized something odd was afoot. The Rogue is literally a 308 in an AR-15 frame. Even the bolt carrier is the same size. They pushed the trigger back to accommodate the magwell, but I can’t feel a difference when handling the rifle. For a hunting rifle, the savings in weight and bulk were worth the coin. I have no regrets about my purchase to date. The pigs, however, they’ve filed some formal protests…
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marksman13 said:
The main reason I bought my POF Rogue is that I picked it up off the rack at a gun store and said to my wife, “This is one of the lightest AR-15s I have ever had my hands on.” Then, I noticed the extremely large magwell and realized something odd was afoot. The Rogue is literally a 308 in an AR-15 frame. Even the bolt carrier is the same size. They pushed the trigger back to accommodate the magwell, but I can’t feel a difference when handling the rifle. For a hunting rifle, the savings in weight and bulk were worth the coin. I have no regrets about my purchase to date. The pigs, however, they’ve filed some formal protests…
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yeah I had the exact same experience with the dpms. I picked it up to look at it and didn’t even realize it wasn’t an AR15 until I noticed the mag well. Have you handled a savage by any chance? I’m curious if it’s really AR15 dimensions or a halfway between size.
 
David Hoback said:
Why do you want a SM? Building is better. And 80% are better yet! :thumbup::D
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I for one had a full size AR10 I built once upon a time and I hate hate hated it because it was too bulky and heavy. I love my many AR15 builds, but no full size ar10’s for me. That little bit difference in height and width and length ruins in for me.
 
someguy2800 said:
I for one had a full size AR10 I built once upon a time and I hate hate hated it because it was too bulky and heavy. I love my many AR15 builds, but no full size ar10’s for me. That little bit difference in height and width and length ruins in for me.
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I haven’t had my hands on a Savage chambered in 308. I did have an Aero Precision M5 build with a Faxon 18” pencil barrel that really wasn’t bad at all. Dimensions were noticeably larger than an AR-15, but that rifle did not feel bulky at all. Kinda wish I hadn’t sold it, but it quit getting shot after I bought my Rogue.
 
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