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Don't bring a bat to a gun fight

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Glad to hear he's alright. They probably would have killed him if he hadn't been armed. Sounds like these punks got what they needed.
 
This incident speaks to a couple of questions often seen at THR...

1. Why do I need to carry at home?
2. Should I keep a round in the chamber?

Stuff happens fast.

On the other hand, the door never should have been opened to strangers. The victim apparently thought having a handgun was enough security to open the door. If he had it to do over again, I'm thinking he'd be a bit smarter. Good thing the teens had a bat instead of a firearm.
 
Heard of this going on in Houston: During the day burgulars are ringing door bells. If no one answers they go around back and break in.

New to me anyway.
 
If it's 9:00, and these guys are wearing hoods and scarfs, why did he even open the door for them?

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad things turned out OK for him, but it seems like not opening the door would of been the right course of actions.
 
One more...

btg3
This incident speaks to a couple of questions often seen at THR...
1. Why do I need to carry at home?
2. Should I keep a round in the chamber?
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#3 - Heh, what are the odds? (pretty dang good in a bad way... 1 in 2,000 to 1 in 5,000)
 
There used to be a "Magruff the Crime Dog" commericial on TV. A thug is beating on the door with a shotgun butt and the voice-over says, "This was the scene in Detroit a couple of years ago."

I always thought it would be great if it went on, "And this was the scene two seconds later" and the whole door blows away.

The camera pans around to look in the door, and there's a snaggle-toothed old guy with a cannon. "Since Ah got mah Ashe Ordnance Model 1841 Mountain Howitzer, Ah've blowed away six burglars and two Fuller Brush salesmen.":evil:
 
So far...I've never had a BG knock on my door. This guy came out "golden" in my thinking.

I have a friend that went through this . Everything worked good for him too. He did not shoot the guy...but he did give him the "come to Jesus" moment to think about. :evil:

I'm tall enough to see out the small window in my front door. A quick glance determines if I want to open the door. Hope it doesn't come to my door.

Mark
 
I DO carry at home. Yes, there's a round up the spout. Our front door has a window next to it, so I can see who's there. No, I would not open the door if the person makes me nervous. Yes, he would be shown the muzzle if I were set upon.
 
I know what you are saying Texas Rifleman but I noticed as my late Dad was aging his judgement was slipping as well.
As lot of people age their decision making just doesnt seem as sound as it once was,and at times they seem to start trusting people that most of us would not and even they would not a few years before and in my Dad's case I really started noticing it when he was about this guys age that was the feature of this story.
And then there are those people(and I work around a lot of affluent people) that have this silly notion they live in a "safe" neighborhood and are easy marks for these very types of young violent toughs.
On a side note I wonder what the calber of pistol he used.
It will surely be more fuel for fire in the "Is the .380 enough gun" thread.
 
heeler said:
On a side note I wonder what the calber of pistol he used.
It will surely be more fuel for fire in the "Is the .380 enough gun" thread.

The follow up article said he used a .22. It might add fuel to the fire as you say but clearly even a .22 was "enough gun". At least on this occasion. But of ALL of the thugs that I've seen or heard of are cowards as well as usually being stupid and lazy and they nearly always run from an armed "victim". I've read a lot of stories of what happened during actual robberies, muggings etc on this very forum and in every case the perps ran when the saw that their intended victim was armed.

OK please, let's don't get into a pissing contest about what is enough gun. I'm just stating the facts but FWIW I would use something a little heavier than a .22 if I had a choice.
 
Totally agree with you Joe.
Glad the old guy made it thourgh the valley and pox on the thugs that came his way.
 
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Good to see he is going to be OK. At any age a bat to the head could be lethal but at that age doubly so. We had some door to door folks here the other day would not answer the door, there were 3 of them, 2 men, 1 woman, dress in dark blue windbreakers (nothing over their heads), 1 had a clip board. They came to my home 3 times, 3 pm, 4pm, 6:45 pm.

I would not answer, it was tough for me to overcome the urge to go out and confront them, but I did. Chances are they were just nimrods selling something but really the days of door to door are gone. I have not nor will I ever buy or give anything to anyone going door to door.

You can't live in fear but really 9pm, 3 teens at my door, they are not going to get an answer, 3 teens with hoodies and their faces covered, guns are out and ready, door stays closed, 911 called.
 
On a side note, as far as caliber, the aim is to end the lethal threat. If the BG dies, well that's too bad but he was the one making the lethal threat. In this case, the guy ended the lethal threat (which was the goal here), and did not kill the BG's, though they very easily could have been killed. So all in all, the 22 did its job in terminating the threat.

Would I use one for HD, no, but would I fault someone for having one instead of having no firearm, absolutely not. I'd rather bring a 22 to a bat fight than another bat or harsh language.
 
So many of these... why do people keep opening their doors to strangers?
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That used to be the norm throughout the country. When I lived in California, (1992–2002,) I soon learned to drop a compact gun in a pocket, then shout, "Who is it?" through the door unless there was a peep hole.

It just now occurred to me I ought to install a peep hole.
 
Happens every couple of years some idiot brings a knife or a bat to a gun fight. Usually it's the police that have to shoot them, and then they get in trouble. I hope this elderly man doesn't. If for no other reason than Darwanism should be encouraged to take it's toll on these dumb thugs.
 
I am glad the senior citizen is okay. My guess is the criminals didn't get a clean blow to his head the bat. It was a fortunate thing for him. The not so smart part of it is that he opened the door in the first place. Use the peephole and keep the deadbolt locked! Do not open the door to strangers or unexpected visitors at night.

I am happy they will be jailed as adults and would be indifferent (at best) if they were buried as juvenile delinquents. IMHO they got ALMOST got what they deserved. A couple more inches toward the heart the would have got EXACTLY what they deserved.
 
In Memphis, older homes with open, empty car ports are the first to get hit.

Break ins happen after people leave for work and school, about 1000.
The professional criminals know that some people come home for lunch.

Their main targets are wide screen tvs, other gadgets, maybe handguns left conveniently in master bedrooms, where jewelry is always stored.
 
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