Don't buy a Cooper

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You know what a political science degree is good for?

You can get into law school with it.
If you can pass the LSAT.

But how hard can that be? We had one lawyer president who thought "Of the people, by the people and for the people" was from the Constitution and Declaration of Independence.

And we have a lawyer candidate for president who says he's been to "all 57 states."
 
If I wanted a Cooper and could afford it I would buy it. I don't blame inanimate objects for the actions of the owner. I think politics is going a bit too far. We should be working together and not making enemies of fellow Americans. Bin Laden must be laughing at us now.
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I don't blame inanimate objects for the actions of the owner.
Nor do I. But I will not enrich the pockets of those who work, directly or indirectly thru funding, to destroy that which I hold dear. When Cooper funded a candidate that has actively professed for his entire career to want to limit the RKBA movement, he crossed that Rubicon.

And that's not hyperbole - that's the basics of the issue without any political colorations.
 
If I wanted a Cooper and could afford it I would buy it. I don't blame inanimate objects for the actions of the owner.


Let me understand, guns have feelings??, and the gun would receive the money paid for it, quite a stretch in thinking.:D
 
You know what a political science degree is good for?

It makes for some nice decorations for the office wall. I tell people it's a B.S. in B.S.

But back to the Cooper scandal. I still haven't gotten a reply from the email I sent them.
 
Like the Dixie Chicks, Mr Cooper's personal political views will have a profound affect on his business future.

Seems we went through this with S&W.....does it mean we'll be seeing "pre-Obama Cooper's and post Obama Coopers"?
 
Everyone does not vote based on one single issue. The economy is more important to me at this point
The economy (or pick your social ill of the day) will fix itself one way or another regardless of who's president (especially since Congress controls the actual funding that does the fixin'). The loss of RKBA is much more permanent, and the president has a very real chance to impact that through SCOTUS nominations.

Y'all vote the way you want. I know my priorities, and the RKBA is always tops.

Period.

Just ask our friends in the UK how that's all worked out for them.
 
The **** is getting deep now!!! I am impressed you know who Bin Laden is endorsing.


I presume that Bin Laden will have similar desires to Hamas. If you'd like a reference to the member of Hamas who supports a certain presidential candidate... pm me.
 
The **** is getting deep now!!! I am impressed you know who Bin Laden is endorsing.

Actually we do know who Bin Laden and AQ are endorsing, but it's not Obama.

http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/22/the-al-qaeda-endorsement/

The idea is that Al Qaeda would be hurt by the election of Obama, because he doesn’t fit Arab or Muslim images of white colonial oppressors, and thus isn’t so useful in recruiting suicide bombers.

That being said, you were a bit out of line saying it was "getting deep" to say we knew who Osama would endorse since it took me maybe 12 seconds on google to find the article.
 
Those who don't think Obama would be so bad should try living in Chicago for a little while. You can't legally own a handgun. Carrying a loaded handgun is a felony anywhere in the state. All guns must be registered under a system designed to be frustrating to navigate and reregistered every year. If you miss the deadline for re-registration once, your gun becomes forever unregisterable. No magazines over 10 rounds, no carbines with the mag well in the pistol grip, no evil black rifles, no mini-14's (county ban, not city), no semi-auto shotguns that can hold over 5 rounds, and the list goes on. That's what he thinks "common sense" restrictions are. And the kids here keep killing each other with these guns that were banned before they were born.

When he was a state senator, he had ample opportunity to do something about it, but instead chose to vote for more restrictions, remain silent while his mentor Emil Jones sent most pro gun legislation to die in committee and stood by his ally, mayor Daley, while he ranted and continues to rant about these guns that are causing all the violence in his great city. If he can't see the folly in that, how can he lead a nation?

Those who think his policies will be better for the economy are fooling themselves as well. Increasing taxes on the people who invest, hire and take risks does not encourage any of those activities. Raising the bar on their contributions to health care will cause them to think twice about adding someone else to the payroll. Additional trade restrictions will limit our ability to profit from industries where we have a competitive advantage and cause us to expend efforts in industries where we don't. Removing the right to have a secret ballot in unionizing will open the door to heavy handed tactics from those who would take advantage of members rather than working for them.

McCain isn't who I had hoped for, but for those projecting their idealized notions of what Obama's "hope" and "change" mean, be prepared to be disappointed when your free pony (or whatever he's pushing nowadays) doesn't arrive on time if he gets elected.
 
So Cooper was working with gun owners when he donated money to a Presidential candidate who wants to ban self-defense firearms?

Ban self defense firearms........hell, that guy's against self defense period.


Everyone does not vote based on one single issue. The economy is more important to me at this point.

You mean your economy is more important to you right now. Perfect, you sound like the opposition, you dont' care what is taken from you, or if your fellow Americans are subject to a world court or if your country owes China trillions, you just vote for what's good for your wallet.
Who cares about guns so long as I have a BMW or Hummer in the drive and my portfolio looks good.
Fool.
 
The economy (or pick your social ill of the day) will fix itself one way or another regardless of who's president (especially since Congress controls the actual funding that does the fixin'). The loss of RKBA is much more permanent, and the president has a very real chance to impact that through SCOTUS nominations.

Y'all vote the way you want. I know my priorities, and the RKBA is always tops.

Period.

Just ask our friends in the UK how that's all worked out for them.

Right on brother!!!!!
 
From the Cooper web site......

http://www.cooperfirearms.com/

Cooper web site said:
Regarding the USA Today Article. Cooper Firearms of Montana, Inc. did not contribute and does not support in any fashion the campaign of Senator Obama.

Nine months ago Dan Cooper (personally) made an online donation to the campaign in an effort to help defeat Hillary Clinton and in protest of American plant closures and the shipping of jobs overseas. Three months ago he made yet another donation to the McCain campaign and the RNC totaling over twice that given to Obama campaign.

There is no doubt that the article in USA Today has caused a considerable response. To this end we are encouraged and stand with our fellow NRA members and supporters of the Second Amendment and against those who oppose it.
 
Words. Lies. You don't know what to believe anymore. I think Dan Cooper probably supports Obama. Sorry, my house will own NO cooper firearms. You may have just doomed your company with a few words in USA Today. Get USA Today to print an retraction or explanation.
 
if obama wins i might as well stock up for when blue helmeted soldiers show up to rid the world of evil killing devices....
 
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lot of hot topic here, but should not the thread be moved to the activism forum???

reading thru this there is very little discussion about "rifles", and very much rant-ola about politics.

this thr member is in this forum to read/discuss rifles and such. just saying... :rolleyes:
 
This is what I just sent to him.

Dear Mr. Cooper,



I want to let you know that I will never be an owner of one of your firearms because of your donation to the Obama campaign. I will make sure that all and my friends and family know about this so they will be sure never to purchase a Cooper made firearm again. How can you do this,sir? You know Obama is anti-gun as it can get. In my opinion you have turned your back on the NRA and millions of gun owners across the country.



Sincerely Yours,



Brian Craig
 
So the article from USA Today says:

That's on top of the $1,000 check he wrote to Obama's U.S. Senate campaign in 2004, after he was dazzled by Obama's speech at that year's Democratic National Convention.


The story that he just gave to beat Hillary appears to not wash with the facts. Cooper was giving to Obama long before the presidential race.

I would like to see the explanation for that donation.
 
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