Sam1911
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Usually, what does happen in public, though, is this:
Are you sure they didn't really say this?
"Excuse me, I'm afraid of your gun. Could you hide it from me?"
Usually, what does happen in public, though, is this:
All this talk of open carry causing panic and 911 calls....
What needs to happen is people need to call 911. The cops need to show up.
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Originally Posted by stickhauler
Let's just use as a "for instance" a recent concealed carry holder using his concealed carry firearm to shoot 2 of his attackers and possibly wound the third in defense. It happened in Charlotte, NC and he's a delivery driver for Pizza Hut. He took a pistol whipping and beating at the hands of his attackers, and only used his concealed carry firearm when one of his attackers tried to pull up his shirt, which he knew would allow the bad guy to see the firearm. He felt at that point the bad guys were going to kill him and his store manager, he pulled his firearm and shot.
What would the bad guys reaction have been had they entered the store and saw him carrying openly? Since I'd say we would all agree, a robber likely is going to come in with guns drawn, ready to go, he's likely have been dropped immediately upon the robbers entering the store.
Instead of playing the what if game, how about we play the what really happened in real life game, shall we?
http://vagunforum.net/general-discus...day-t1225.html
and
http://www.ammoland.com/2009/07/19/g...rket-shooting/
From the second article, since you obviously missed it stickhauler:
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Here are my thoughts from watching that tape:
* Talk about a cold-blooded, fast attack where an innocent was shot without warning! Unbelievable. Situational awareness is really important. Luck doesn’t hurt, either.
* Open carry was an advantage in this case because in the video I saw just how fast the GO managed to draw his gun and begin to return fire. You always hear about how open carry is so bad tactically – you’ll be the first one shot, etc. Oh, yeah? The GO had a HUGE gun in plain sight and he was NOT shot. Who got shot first? An unarmed store owner.
Once again, the facts and historical data just don't support the theory.
And what else happens in real life in the real world?
http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-i...bbery-kennesaw
According to stickhauler's theory the team casing the joint should have went out, got their friends and came back in guns blazing at the open carriers... but that's not what happened in real life.
The truth is that ZERO in five officers were targeted for their gun
As I stated before, have at the OC in the country. Knock yourself out.
Many of the folks in the smaller towns have the correct view of weapons and are extremely comfortable with guns. You shouldnt have problems.
However, for those of us that found work in the metropolian areas, most of the folks in cities are terrified when someone walks in with a gun that isnt an LEO. They have been taught to do so.
Your posts on a gun board wont change that fact.
However, for those of us that found work in the metropolian areas, most of the folks in cities are terrified when someone walks in with a gun that isnt an LEO.
I was driving home and thought... some people bring a bigger size gun to their CCW exam, but when they carry, they will carry a smaller gun.
So generally we get better accuracy from a larger handgun, wouldn't that make open carry safer than conceal carry?
You know, I don't think open carry will get very many folks to carry larger guns. So many folks carry small because they don't like the heft of larger guns.
the foot said:Carry in a way that is legal in your state. The main point is, though, that you exercise your right to carry. Stay within the law, accomodate law enforcement officers when they question you, and keep it civil.
If arrested, or if law enforcement officers attempt to intimidate you, then after it's all over you can file suit against them.
The main thing is that you must exercise your right to carry firearms.
oldfool said:nope
CC is a prudent precaution
OC is a statement
guns are not unsafe, people are unsafe
carry yours however it pleases you, and be safe
if you saw that as "negative", blame yourself, not me, friendOC is no less of a prudent precaution than CC is. What is really sad, though, is how the idea or thought of a person carrying a gun to protect themselves and their families with upsets so many "pro-gun" and/or "pro-2A" people. It is also sad to see "pro-gun" and/or "pro-2A" people make sweeping, stereotyping, and negative comments regarding an entire segment of the gun carrying community. We should leave such actions to the Brady Campaign and other anti-gun groups and not be participants in their tactics ourselves.
if you saw that as "negative", blame yourself, not me, friend
your interpretation, not my intent
Or more likely, you simply would not continue your robbery at all and go find another place with no visibly armed customers.
The argument that bad guys look for guns to shoot first assumes that bad guys WANT to be in a gun battle and I don't believe that is true for the majority of criminals out there.
OC is no less of a prudent precaution than CC is. What is really sad, though, is how the idea or thought of a person carrying a gun to protect themselves and their families with upsets so many "pro-gun" and/or "pro-2A" people. It is also sad to see "pro-gun" and/or "pro-2A" people make sweeping, stereotyping, and negative comments regarding an entire segment of the gun carrying community. We should leave such actions to the Brady Campaign and other anti-gun groups and not be participants in their tactics ourselves.