Love those Altamont Ropers and use them on several of my Smiths...but....I find they knock the heck out of my 2nd knuckle as well as the inside of my strong hand thumb...the one that sits just about on the cylinder latch...As a result, I limit them to use with light target loads only. Damn shame, 'cause they sure dress up a revolver's looks.....here's my 629 five incher with a set installed....RodI thought I'd dress up the 686 with a set of Altamont "Ropers" I've had in a box...for several years. I'd put them on when I first got the gun, but swapped them back to try the stock rubber grips.