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Drug Bust Money

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What REALLY happens when the cops find a breifcase full of cash during a traffic stop (assuming they find drugs or illegal firearms which allows the so called seizure laws to take affect)? My question is suppose the local cops find $1M in cash in a car, does this go to the city? Who does this money benefit?
 
In my area the money is held until trial.

If convicted it can be split among agencies to buy new toys or hire more officers. People support it cause they tell us seized money helps with less tax increases. Also any property they suspect was bought with illegal drug proceeds will be seized.

We've had numerous go fast boats seized from the marina after convictions.

If found innocent, it can be a very difficult task to get the money returned, or any property thats seized.

Local law enforcement usually shows up at a fair, or gathering of some sort to show off the tank, mobile command center, robots, bomb squad tank, SWAT trucks, spaceships and nukes.

Looks like an old Soviet parade except its not the armed forces. Or is it?
 
Its amazing how many times the illegals or bangers selling dope can not count. 50K in cash when properly counted usually becomes 5 or 6K.

I know a guy who worked hard down in Fl after Hurricane Andrew and was coming home with several cashiers checks and a lot of cash. stopped by a state trooper in a adjoining state, all that money was declared "drug money" and impounded. His 25K or so in cash was recounted as 2500 when it was filed. It took several phones call from the MN state AG to that states AG until his impounded checks were released, and his cash never got that added zero. I have found the only way to travel with money now is put it in a bank, set up a wire transfer and get it sent to your bank, you loose five bucks to keep that account open for a while but it works.
 
My question is suppose the local cops find $1M in cash in a car, does this go to the city?
If they actually take the (presumed) perps into custody, SOME of it MAY find it's way into the evidence locker. :rolleyes:
 
take half?

would ya? spend it fast. the kinda guys get that much cash can get you done for 10 k. And would. There was a co at lorton prison outside dc, he broke up a fight hurt a guy doing it. the guy told him"your a dead man" 36 hours later machine gunned at a traffic light. heck in early 80's the columbians had contracts out on the governer of florida and the comandant of the coast guard. 100 k each and it was common knowledge.
 
The city I'm in in NC has several vehicles, a Caddy SRX, a vette, and a few more that are marked in large letters on the rear quarter panels that they were "donated" by local drug busts!
 
Also any property they suspect was bought with illegal drug proceeds will be seized.

I've always had a problem with this. The way it has been explained to me, is that the police do NOT have to "prove" that the property is the result of drug money... only that it be "suspected".

I have no problem with drug dealers having their toys taken away if its PROVEN, but I have a problem with the government being able to seize property based only on suspicion.
 
They do not have to find drugs or guns to seize, and keep your money. If you have it they can seize it, and you have to hire a lawyer to prove it was honestly earned. Not only do they not have to convict you of anything,,,, they do not even have to charge you with a crime. With that method it is a civil matter, not a criminal one, and you have to pay the lawyer, they do not have to provide one.
 
Drug dealers are getting smarter. Most never keep the money and the dope together. Use of rental cars to transport dopw is a trend. Also it is pretty regular for the mule to use a borrowed car.
 
can't say for sure

about full auto wasn't there only have the report in the paper and it was called to my attention by another co there.(and we know the papers get it riht) But it was ne dc and there are quite a few full autos out there, complete gun control not withstanding, Some years back the post went to a neighborhood off new york ave and the kids(12 and under) could tell ak's from uzi's by sound. But remember gun control works dc is proof
 
But it was ne dc and there are quite a few full autos out there, complete gun control not withstanding, Some years back the post went to a neighborhood off new york ave and the kids(12 and under) could tell ak's from uzi's by sound.
Well, I lived and worked in/around DC from 1969 to 1999 and frankly this just don't line up with my experiences (even those garnered in Deanwood and other NE projects).

Hey - it's not like the Kate Graham's boyz ever sensationalized anything, is it? ;)
 
not the post!

say it ain't so! hard to say to if its full autom or a fast finger on a semi doesn't much matter if you stop a couple. you remember in late 70's might have been as late as 81 when some guys broke into minimum oe medium security at lorton and capped that guy and then left? Over finances on a distribution ring on the inside. if i remember right they were manufacturing phony hasish inside and sending it out to be sold. crazy stuff but par for that town
 
When we take evidence it gets entered as evidence. You guys would be surprised probably to find out how complex the whole process is, there are many "double checks" built in.

Personally I've never seen or heard of a situation in any dept I've been in where money was taken or evidence fudged up.

You know, if everyone was held accountable through video, audio, polygraphs, psych. evals, etc... as we are in our LEO jobs, a lot of people (including many on these boards) would not have a job.

You see, most people go to work knowing they can get away with a certain amount of dishonesty or crime... People take office equipment all the time, installers go into people's homes and steal, etc.

As an LEO, you go to work knowing you are always being watched. And this is good. Most people would just never do a job where you are that closely monitored.
 
Evidence

The Smith County Constable Office in Troup, Texas was missing drugs, money, firearms, appliances, and liquor from their evidence locker recently. They got caught, finally, after years of complaints, when one of their officers showed up in court with a case of Keystone Light he had taken off a teenager. Turns out the teenager drank Coors. After much story telling and backing and filling, it turned out that the dept regularly drank whatever got confiscated and bought newer stuff to replace it when they went to trial, so to save the space in the evidence locker.
They fully thought this explanation would fly.
Everyone suspended, no arrests or prosecutions. Lots of drugs missing. Rumor is that the Constables had the best dope for sale. Cash money? Are you kidding? Maybe those complaining of money being stolen from them and never booked in WEREN'T just a bunch of lying troublemaking civilians.

Our County Sheriff used to run a private bank account which he refused to account for when it finally came to light. Over the years he had run hundreds of thousands of dollars through the account he called the "Dog and Horse fund." One of the ways he funded his secret account was by sale of US government surplus equipment given to the dept by his rich uncle Sam. The sale items included several hundred shotguns . The ATF told him to "be more careful next time" when that story came out, but that there would be no charges or prosecution.
 
showed up in court with a case of Keystone Light he had taken off a teenager.

I can't saw that I fault a cop for that behavior. Illeagle for a teenager to have doen't mean illeagle for an adult to have.

Perhaps he should have poured it out?

Unethical police behavior infuriates me, but I have trouble getting my knickers in a twist over this.
 
An acquaintance works for the Kansas DOT doing vehicle maintenance. Once in a while the state troopers will bring a car in to their garage for a more thorough search than they can do in the field. In other words, strip it.

He told about them bringing a car in where they eventually found several hundred thousand dollars hidden inside various body panels. The guy driving was a Mexican national, in the country illegally with fake ID. They didn't bother to charge him with anything, just confiscated the cash and the car, and told him to have a nice day.

I'm sure he went home, explained everything to his boss, and ended up with a funny story to tell his grandchildren.;)
 
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What REALLY happens when the cops find a breifcase full of cash during a traffic stop (assuming they find drugs or illegal firearms which allows the so called seizure laws to take affect)?


THEY... can, have, and will continue to seize cash that is found. The courts ruled that even when NO ILLEGAL ACTIVITY was found, the cops can keep the money.

Ask the farmer in Nebraska going to a farm auction with a load of cash:fire:
 
Anecdotes abound of police taking large amounts of cash whenever discovered. The scope of the problem isnt really about whether it is all cops, most cops, some cops or a tiny fraction- the problem is about not punishing people when they are caught. And by punishing, I dont mean suspensions, reprimands or no gold stars, I mean getting put in prison. Until we start treating this sort of behavior like it is BAD and punishing those who partake in it, the problem will never be solved.

This is yet another gift from the wonderful WoD. Which America has still largely not gotten around to getting angry about. The average person on the street seems to completely support this collosal waste of money. I sometimes question why I bother even caring about this country.
 
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