Dude carrying a gun in public in VA has an AD that ends in his own death

[blue_ridge]

I'm suprised that no one has come up with a snap off device more reliable than the trigger block, I did a search and looked at a dozen different mods, none I would use other than the block.

Maybe because there are dozens of other guns with a manual safety. so there's not much of a market for devices making the Glock safer. People probably just buy a different gun or learn to handle the Glock more safely.

 

[revolversrbetter]

everyone should read this story

it describes, in pictures, how a Glock can AD while in a holster

http://www.itstactical.com/warcom/firearms/safety-warning-worn-leather-holsters-can-cause-accidental-discharges/

 

[Pyro]

Very good read, not sure about your name though.

 

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

everyone should read this story

it describes, in pictures, how a Glock can AD while in a holster

More like how it can AD in a holster that is past it's service life. I wouldn't carry any gun in a holster like that.

 

[ReloaderEd]

I am now convinced a trigger block is a good idea on a Glock or like pistol, especially if you carry a round in the chamber. All the talk is good and I have learned alot. It does make me very sad and edgy about guns in general. Be Safe

 

[revolversrbetter]

in the article, the author states he'd been using the holster "one year and two weeks", that's not very long to be outside its service life, I always just assumed holsters last forever

(oh, btw, I'm not down on Glocks, I own a Glock 22, amazing weapon, I just feel revolvers have more character..., but, that's neither here nor there...)

 

[blue_ridge]

I say more people need to be edgy around guns. It's the overly confident guys who pull a Barney Fife. Treat every gun like it's loaded, all the time. Practice, practice, practice.

 

[RNB65]

And stick with kydex for Glocks. It's a match made in heaven!

 

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

in the article, the author states he'd been using the holster "one year and two weeks", that's not very long to be outside its service life, I always just assumed holsters last forever

If that's what the holster looked like, than yes it was past it's short, crappy, service life.

 

[dataDyne]

Another reason why one should never load a firearm that isn't going to be used intentionally immediately

 

[allaroundhunter]

Another reason why one should never load a firearm that isn't going to be used intentionally immediately

Actually, as others have said, this is another reason why one should use a good holster. If you are going to carry a gun on you for defense, as this man was, it does indeed needed to be loaded.

I know that it is hard to believe, dataDyne, but BG's don't actually come up to you before they are going to cause you harm and warn you to load your gun....

 

[HorseSoldier]

Treat every gun like it's loaded, all the time.

This.

Ain't really much else to it.

 

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

Another reason why one should never load a firearm that isn't going to be used intentionally immediately

All of my defensive guns are all fully loaded and chambered. That includes the handgun on my hip and even my shotgun.

 

[45_auto]

If you try to save money on something that can easily affect your life, like low quality holsters, don't be surprised if you get shot in the a$$.

Same philosophy applies to mountain climbing ropes, helicopter rotor blades, scuba gear, parachutes, etc.

 

[hardluk1]

iN THIS STORY HIS FRIEND COMMENTED THAT HE DID NOT USE A HOLSTER. SO THIS COULD HAVE BEEN MANY GUNS ,EVEN A REVOLVER

 

[JohnBT]

I don't believe I own any revolvers with a 5 or 7 pound DA trigger. Mine are a lot heavier, more like 12. Does Glock make a model with a 12 pound trigger?

 

[45_auto]

They make an optional 11 lb trigger spring. Is that close enough?

http://www.glock.com/english/options_triggerspring.htm

GLOCK TRIGGER SPRING
The optional GLOCK „New York“ trigger springs produce revolver-like trigger action, facilitating the acclimation from traditional revolvers to semi-automatics.

STANDARD All GLOCK pistols are delivered with a standard trigger spring from the factory. It guarantees constant trigger pull resistance over the entire trigger travel.

N.Y.1 The GLOCK „New York“ trigger has its name from the New York Police Department. It facilitates officers changing from revolvers to pistols. Increases trigger pull weight from 2,5 kg / 5.5 lb. to 4,9 kg / 11 lb.

N.Y.2 The N.Y.2 trigger spring is even harder than the N.Y.1 trigger spring. The user will obtain a continuous very hard revolver-like increase of the trigger pull weight from 3,2 kg / 7 lb. to 5 kg / 11 lb.

 

[JohnBT]

11 would be close enough, but has anybody ever used one?

 

[45_auto]

Lots of Glock "gurus" recommend them, many police departments used to require them (it's called a NY trigger because it was developed for the NYPD).

I'm not sure how many still require them with the proliferation of all of the Glock copies in the last 10 years.

 

[Cop Bob]

The Glock is on my old departments approved carry list, an a good number of officers carry them, but they are not carried by the majority, most leaning toward the SIG, Beretta, Springfield's and a host of others,, 80% of all AD's in that department occur with Glocks... Just sayin... However, it is the way the gun is designed... To carry without, or with an improper holster is folly... this proves it..

I own one Glock, in 9mm I do not carry it.... as there are others that I am more proficient with and prefer larger calibers for carry...

My heartfelt condolences to the Family... a very sad and unfortunate incident...

 

[Leanwolf]

NY 32182 - "... "Plaxicoed" himself."

Did Bill Plaxco shoot himself???

L.W.

 

[HorseSoldier]

NFL player Plaxico Burress managed to shoot himself in the leg at a nightclub in NYC after jamming his pistol (a Glock also, IIRC) in his pants waistband without holster but it then got away from him inside the pants (darn baggy pants) and he snagged the trigger as he tried to grab it . . .

 

[NOLAEMT]

Another reason why one should never load a firearm that isn't going to be used intentionally immediately

why does this keep coming up? If I knew when I was going to need my firearm, I wouldn' still be in the same place, and therefore would have no need for a firearm.

But as I am not clairvoyant, I will continue to carry my gun in condition 1, and do so safely. As long as you carry in a quality holster, and know what you are doing, carrying a loaded weapon is as safe as anything else you do during the day.

 

[HorseSoldier]

That is a safety rule that a lot of ranges impose and that, consequently, a lot of people have internalized. When you get right down to it, it's also a habit the peacetime military hammers into people for live ammo -- a habit which has only been partially addressed by a decade of war.

And to a certain extent, it makes sense, if your definition of "immediately" used includes carry for self defense as a "use." I would never carry a concealed pistol without a round in the chamber, but I don't keep every gun in the house locked and loaded 24/7 (even if I treat as loaded at all times).

 

[JohnBT]

He had a carry permit.
Glock 27.
Mexican carry.
His wife was halfway out the door.
He threw the gun to the floorboard.
"Oh my God I think I just shot myself"

The kids thought a balloon in the car popped.

The police surmise he was "adjusting" the gun.

There are 275,428 active permits in Virginia according to the article.

I am looking at the Richmond Times-Dispatch. Page B2.

John