Cookekdjr...
You might want to check this article out.
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13249625/site/newsweek/
Biker
You might want to check this article out.
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13249625/site/newsweek/
Biker
Duke case: Police "forgot" evidence?
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Carl N. Brown
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I am glad Mongo mentioned Tawana Brawley,
a white-on-black rape accusation that had
the whole country bent out of shape, and then
turned out to be a hoax. I thouhjt I was the
only one who remembered.
a white-on-black rape accusation that had
the whole country bent out of shape, and then
turned out to be a hoax. I thouhjt I was the
only one who remembered.
Cookekdjr...
You might want to check this article out.
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13249625/site/newsweek/
Biker
Biker, thanks for the link. Busy day at work, can't post for long.
this article contradicts what I heard on the news earlier. I thought I heard on the radio that the victim had vaginal abrasions or lacerations. Of course, its quoting from something linked by the defense, so there's a good chance they made it up.
Here's a rule of thumb:
If the alleged victim has abrasions (scrapes) or lacerations (tears) in her vagina, then she was raped. I prosecuted alot of rapes, and I've interviewed alot of dr.'s who specialize in conducting rape exams and treating rape victims (most were from Emory University in Atlanta).They have all said that the scrapes and tears found in rape exams are NEVER found in examinations of women who only engage in consensual sex. You will not even find these injuries in prostitutes who willingly have sex with multiple partners or other "rough" sex. The doctors tell me the injuries are just too painful, that it makes the woman feel like the injured part is on fire. Basically, its horrific pain. I've seen enough pictures of this (of adults and kids) to last me a lifetime.
Anyway, if the exam shows abrasions and lacerations, then somebody raped her. It won't tell us who, and the individual defendants may still walk. But if the symptoms are there, it happened. My earlier post is based on my memory of hearing about lacerations and abrasions. If that is incorrect, I apologize and please ignore my earlier post.
Now, back to sending a child predator to prison...for gun charges.
-David
You might want to check this article out.
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13249625/site/newsweek/
Biker
Biker, thanks for the link. Busy day at work, can't post for long.
this article contradicts what I heard on the news earlier. I thought I heard on the radio that the victim had vaginal abrasions or lacerations. Of course, its quoting from something linked by the defense, so there's a good chance they made it up.
Here's a rule of thumb:
If the alleged victim has abrasions (scrapes) or lacerations (tears) in her vagina, then she was raped. I prosecuted alot of rapes, and I've interviewed alot of dr.'s who specialize in conducting rape exams and treating rape victims (most were from Emory University in Atlanta).They have all said that the scrapes and tears found in rape exams are NEVER found in examinations of women who only engage in consensual sex. You will not even find these injuries in prostitutes who willingly have sex with multiple partners or other "rough" sex. The doctors tell me the injuries are just too painful, that it makes the woman feel like the injured part is on fire. Basically, its horrific pain. I've seen enough pictures of this (of adults and kids) to last me a lifetime.
Anyway, if the exam shows abrasions and lacerations, then somebody raped her. It won't tell us who, and the individual defendants may still walk. But if the symptoms are there, it happened. My earlier post is based on my memory of hearing about lacerations and abrasions. If that is incorrect, I apologize and please ignore my earlier post.
Now, back to sending a child predator to prison...for gun charges.
-David
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Even if the accuser was raped (a theory very much in doubt, at this point) the problem is figuring out who raped her. She obviously led a lifestyle that would have led to multiple and perhaps even frequent exposures to that particular risk, and pretty much every witness at or near the scene has said she was so intoxicated at the party that she can't be considered reliable in any way, shape or form.
On a personal note, I guess I'm as anti-Duke as anybody. The vast majority of the students at that school are uber-rich, ultra-snobby, rude, dismissive, ignorant yankees - and I've dealt with them enough to know. I didn't have any problem at all believing the accuser's story when it was first publicized, and as much as I hate to admit it, I almost wish it were true. My experiences with Duke University have been so universally negative that it would satisfy some unpleasant part of my personality to see them taken down a notch.
But regardless of my personal feelings on the subject, the facts are the facts, and this case shows every sign of being a poster case for "reasonable doubt". I haven't figured out what the prosecutor's angle is (now that the election is over, anyway) but this crusade he's on isn't saying much for his credibility or character.
On a personal note, I guess I'm as anti-Duke as anybody. The vast majority of the students at that school are uber-rich, ultra-snobby, rude, dismissive, ignorant yankees - and I've dealt with them enough to know. I didn't have any problem at all believing the accuser's story when it was first publicized, and as much as I hate to admit it, I almost wish it were true. My experiences with Duke University have been so universally negative that it would satisfy some unpleasant part of my personality to see them taken down a notch.
But regardless of my personal feelings on the subject, the facts are the facts, and this case shows every sign of being a poster case for "reasonable doubt". I haven't figured out what the prosecutor's angle is (now that the election is over, anyway) but this crusade he's on isn't saying much for his credibility or character.
It has been my personal experience, that prosecurers dont care one way or another about innocence or guilt, just the win loss ratio. They want wins, period.
This is why in a lot of cases, a completely innocent party will be railroaded into taking a plea.
Make the plea a less enough charge, and a lot of people will take it just to be done with it. A win is a win to the DA.
Dude, have you ever met a prosecutor?
This is why in a lot of cases, a completely innocent party will be railroaded into taking a plea.
Make the plea a less enough charge, and a lot of people will take it just to be done with it. A win is a win to the DA.
Dude, have you ever met a prosecutor?
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