Early shooting skills?

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I never shot gallery or other formal rifle shooting games, but did a lot of offhand shooting starting with what may have been close to a million BBs before turning 14, then thousands of rounds, shooting rats in a dump, or woodchucks/ crows in fields (our rule was anything 100 yards or under must be offhand)...at that time we were shooting .30-06 rifles for deer hunting practice.

My hunting buddy was a formal Junior Rimfire shooter. He was very good, but often missed out on a kill because he couldn't shoot fast enough. It often drove me crazy because we swapped off after a kill and passed-up shots that he should have been able to take.

Turkey shoot matches helped me to improve my marksmanship, both offhand and prone at 50 and 100 yards, including some three-shot, rapid fire 50 yard shooting. By that time, I was using a .22-250 Rem and did well enough to mostly take a two-turkey limit home nearly every week.

Stance/hold for me was my natural posture for plinking, which was pretty darned good, but it wasn't my attempt at concentrating on my stance, but perhaps, concentration on the target and confident squeeze at the right time that set me apart. The rifle was more like part of my body, and as such, could make rapid, but accurate shots. Rat shooting in open-pit dumps was great training for hunting. We had to shoot fast as many shots were when rats were running on top of ground and others when they were sneaking up through piles of garbage.

BTW: Most of my teenage woodchuck and crow kills were with a bolt-action 30-06 hunting rifle with a 2.5X Weaver scope. That rifle shot about 1" groups, but I hardly ever shot it for groups. The next rifle was a .22-250 that was more accurate and easier on my shoulder when sighting-in. The cartridge didn't allow bouncing rounds into woodchucks, but taught me to only shoot when I could get the frangible bullets directly to the animal. After a while, my favorite turkey shoot venue said I couldn't use my .22-250 because it wasn't powerful enough and wasn't a "deer cartridge", even though I'd killed several deer with it.

Running deer matches were my favorite because they called for quick, accurate shots with various leads, depending on a target on rails that varied in speed, often gravity-propelled. There were fairly narrow "shooting lanes", so the shooter has to aim from a few inches to about a foot from where the hits count most. The last running deer shoots employed hunting cartridges and I used mild .270 Win rounds that would still group around an inch at 100 yards. There weren't many running deer match opportunities within 50 miles, so I didn't shoot more than about 5.

Hope this is helpful for you to understand how I got into "fast and kinda-fancy" rifle shooting. It all came together for me when I shot a running deer, left-handed from a self-made tree stand. I was so pumped, I just sat there for a few minutes and "drank from cup of delight".
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My shooting made great improvements after joining NMLRA and the local ml club, the Illini Muzzle Loaders. Learned to shoot real offhand(support arm not allowed to touch body), cross sticks and bench. Got good enough to set a national record in CW musket at 50 yards. (Good for six months, good story there, the old record was 10 years old). Dang clubs also got me started on bp trap and skeet. Several records there. Lots of memories like shooting the prototype Ruger Old Army at Friendship, winning the overall bp shotgun championship at Union Grove and getting my wife and kids into shooting.
 
My shooting made great improvements after joining NMLRA and the local ml club, the Illini Muzzle Loaders. Learned to shoot real offhand(support arm not allowed to touch body), cross sticks and bench. Got good enough to set a national record in CW musket at 50 yards. (Good for six months, good story there, the old record was 10 years old). Dang clubs also got me started on bp trap and skeet. Several records there. Lots of memories like shooting the prototype Ruger Old Army at Friendship, winning the overall bp shotgun championship at Union Grove and getting my wife and kids into shooting.
I've only fired a black powder rifle once in my life. That's probably because I'm about shooting, not loading, cleaning and fussing, and waiting for the smoke to clear. Please don't take that negatively. I don't have anything against muzzle loaders. I'm just more of a shooter than a traditionalist.
 
My first deer was shot on the run. Right to left ( am right handed ).

But it was with a bow ( compound ).

15 yrs later i switch to recurve and first deer, shot on the trot left to right LOL

Moving deer targets at 3D shoots used to be a thing. And i knew how to nail em.

Now they are taboo
 
My shooting made great improvements after joining NMLRA and the local ml club, the Illini Muzzle Loaders. Learned to shoot real offhand(support arm not allowed to touch body), cross sticks and bench. Got good enough to set a national record in CW musket at 50 yards. (Good for six months, good story there, the old record was 10 years old). Dang clubs also got me started on bp trap and skeet. Several records there. Lots of memories like shooting the prototype Ruger Old Army at Friendship, winning the overall bp shotgun championship at Union Grove and getting my wife and kids into shooting.
I've mentioned this before, but I've taught many people how to shoot, mostly handgun. That includes offering my hometown police department my training skills. I've also taught my wife, my kids, and grandkids to shoot. One grandson became an Army sniper, and just left the service after 6 years. My younger daughter just qualified for her CCP in MA, having the top score in the class! Recently a grand-daughter entered the Air Force and qualified highly in shooting. One of the younger grandsons entered the gallery shooting program at my club and did well. I credit good shooting ability in my grandkids to shooting .22LR rifles at metal silhouettes out to 50 yards. Competing with each other is great incentive to shooting well...and they do.
 
My eyes degraded to 20/15 in my 40's.
Good vision and fast thinking, plus fine pitch motorskills..........I was repeatable, could see the details (aim small miss small) and didn't take forever to make the call.

Even now, I see a deer I decide Y or N if I'm gonna take it. If Y, then it goes into the "process" of delivering a projectile.
Such that it becomes just another shot (and is easy).

Buck fever? Nope.

After..........things can get a little squirrely, but not during the shootin'. :)
 
My dad was a gun guy, so I spent a fair amount of time shooting, good stuff too.
He not an engineer, but he did pay attention to some stuff and it allowed for better results.

Remember my first IHMSA match. Borrowed my dad's TC 10" .22lr. Had shot one or twice on cardboard targets the month prior.
One sight setting, no spotter.

The club folks told me to not be disappointed w my score, most folks start very low and eventually work their way up.

Punk kid, I ripped a 28 first go. Not great, but certainly nothing to be ashamed about.

Now I can buy decent stuff of my own, and my eyes are crap.
Think there something to that seeing the details.
Know when I shot IFAA indoors I could see the X at 20. Now I can't. Its just a fuzzball instead of a bullseye.

Lack of fine visual focus for me, means lack of mental focus, because that's just the way I always shot.
I'm a slouch now, and still whip most of the folks at the local shooting club.
Informal, but when its target check time..........folks get a bit bent.

Must say, most younger shooters today are all about making noise, even those around my age.
Hey, if they're having fun so be it.

Even my hunting bud on sight in day, tends to get a bit bummed, my targets vs his.
He is very reserved on shot selection afield, and his way works well for him.

I'll take movers or thread the needle. To each his own.
He initially laughed when we went coyote hunting and I took a Colt Python.
Told him 75 and in I got em, past that he does.

Called one in and shot it on the run at 25 I did. He doesn't laugh anymore.
 
Two of my 3 kids are right handed but left eye dominant.
Not super dominant either........like flip back and forth whenever.
Only one is right handed, right dominant (but not strong dominant).

Their mom is messed up in similar fashion.

Forced dominant eye helps.

All wear glasses. So.........scotch tape on lens of the "bad eye". No eye strain that way.
Heck, some people can't close just one eye. Tape is cheap and works (on the lens, not taping eye shut LOL)
 
I only taught kids rimfires , centrefires not until they are 16-18 or so. Damaged too much hearing in the army and saw too many army fellas suffer it too. Hearing protection doesnt cover real loud guns, noise still gets through the bones of the face and around the ears. I had severe tinnitus by my late 20's, hadnt even lost much hearing but must have bent a few hair cells just the wrong way. I've been listening to that tune now for 20 years. The thought of a kid being one shot away from the same thing makes my scalp turn. At 18 they can decide what they want to do with their bodies.
This just is kind of like rain at the parade
 
Well I deleted it then. happy?
I wasnt being flip, I just now got my daughter into center fire shooting and your post was like getting slapped straight. Some of it never occurred to me. I figured if she was doubled up with ear pro she'd be good to go.

I notice even when I have ear pro sometimes my head and ear bones ache after heavy shooting, some ringing and I usually dont shoot anything louder than .223. You didnt have to delete your post man. I was just kind of bummed out to read it because I'm a lil obsessive about safety and comfort especially regards to my daughter and now I may well be thinking it every time we shoot.

Not your fault per se, just is what it is I guess. Play with loud things, eventually go deaf.

I know a guy who is unrepentantly uninterested in ear pro. It's not a macho thing, and he's not particularly dumb either so I dont really get it but he will rattle off a full mag of .40 from his living room out a window to a target on his lawn (single, no kids). I asked him why he wants to be deaf. Reasonless.
 
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When I was 10, my Dad enlisted me into a VFW Junior rifle team. We shot at the local amory, under the guidance of a 2nd Lieutenant who got us .22 training rifles through the CMP. Mine was a Remington 513T.
Several WW2 veterans were instructing a bunch of us kids on all the disciplines involved with rifle marksmanship. I guess they must've thrown enough stuff our way and, finally some of it actually stuck. I cherish those days and will forever, because I turned into a .22 rimfire fanatic and shoot those that I own almost exclusively.
That's how I got started collecting one box of full .22 rimfire rounds from every brick my Dad and Uncle Bill bought. Guess I couldn't curb the fear that some day I might run out of ammunition:
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That includes offering my hometown police department my training skills.
Were the police receptive to your offer? I suppose it depends on the size of the town and the force, and the qualifications of the guy offering . I've thought about this but our police force has their own firearms instructors and probably wouldn't care to open it up to "old" retirees.
 
Two of my 3 kids are right handed but left eye dominant.
Not super dominant either........like flip back and forth whenever.
Only one is right handed, right dominant (but not strong dominant).

Their mom is messed up in similar fashion.

Forced dominant eye helps.

All wear glasses. So.........scotch tape on lens of the "bad eye". No eye strain that way.
Heck, some people can't close just one eye. Tape is cheap and works (on the lens, not taping eye shut LOL)
Reminds me of when the President of the shooting club where I shot Turkey Shoots asked me to shoot for the club at an annual meet with a rival club. I did my shooting on handgun silhouettes, running deer, and handgun shooting, then he asked if I could shoot another guy's Swede in the military match, which consisted of shooting an iron-sighted old military rifle, benchrested at 100 yards. The guy used paper-patched cast bullets and the only rifle mod was a higher front sight to be able to zero at 100 yards.

I had some target pasters with peep-holes in them, so attached one on my shooting eye side of my glasses to clear-up the sight picture, and shot the rifle. I ended up winning the match, but it was the first time I'd shot an iron-sighted centerfire in many moons. It was fun, but didn't get me to shoot that venue again. I'd been using clip-on apertures for pistol shooting for years, but that was a first for rifle shooting and it surely made a big difference.
 
Tinnitus here. Really noticed it about 30 yrs ago trying to listen for deer on a bowhunt.

In 95 we went turkey hunting down south and my buds watch alarm was going off.....and i couldnt hear it.

Noticed a couple yrs back some guitar leads on CDs I have, suddenly some notes gone.

I wore earpro religiously on target ranges. But not hunting. Handgunning chucks proly what did mine in
 
I now work in a foundry of sorts......loud all the time. Vent fans sound like twin engine Beechcraft.

Oddly, sound dropped as I type this. Must have shut an area down. Still have sirens and process noise.

And agree, bet bone transfer is a problem when wearing earpro
 
The electronic stuff one can wear hunting is a godsend.

Too bad we didnt have it when I was younger
 
Now its just a race.....between going ugly, fat, stupid or crippled.....before going deaf
 
I've only fired a black powder rifle once in my life. That's probably because I'm about shooting, not loading, cleaning and fussing, and waiting for the smoke to clear. Please don't take that negatively. I don't have anything against muzzle loaders. I'm just more of a shooter than a traditionalist.
With a muzzle loader you have so much more effort getting ready for each shot you take more care setting it off.
 
I care about every shot squeezed off!! It's about hitting what/where I want to hit and not just close to it. If shooting groups, they have to be as small as possible under the conditions at the time. Wind, heat waves, etc. all impact the shot and making the right hold-off, or scope adjustment are important to me, but if sighting-in, I want conditions to be as neutral as possible.
 
Hi...
To get back on topic somewhat, my early shooting skills were honed on a bolt action .22LR rifle.
My older brother and I would shoot walnuts off a tree behind the farmhouse my father rented for a few years. We also shot the big flying grasshoppers that were ubiquitous on that farm back in the '60s. We were also pretty hard on the local groundhog populations on that farm and the neighboring farms.
After we moved from the farm in the late '60s, I burned a lot of .22LR ammunition up by shooting tin cans and rocks at a local quarry.
My father very seldom did any target shooting...he called it shooting "mark" and just didn't do it very often. He considered it a waste of ammunition. For someone who didn't target shoot, he was deadly on game.
He did shoot hundreds of rats at a local dump in the early '60s. He would take me along to watch for rats. He did that most evenings after he got off work. He hated rats...we walked a couple of miles to that dump that was situated on a construction company's lot along a railroad track.
 
Were the police receptive to your offer? I suppose it depends on the size of the town and the force, and the qualifications of the guy offering . I've thought about this but our police force has their own firearms instructors and probably wouldn't care to open it up to "old" retirees.

Actually, my offer was to train a team of four officers to shoot in my Club's matches (which I ran). The Chief put up a notice that was much more inclusive, asking whether anyone would like firearms instruction from me. All officers except him and his assistant signed up!!
I was taken aback by the situation, but after recruiting three friends to help, I put a training program together and got it accredited by NRA and was in "business" (no cost except ammo).

I then told the Chief that we'd be needing a LOT of ammo and got him to spring for bullet casting/reloading equipment and I trained an officer to make target ammo, using a progressive press. When we got ammo, we had a classroom session and scheduled one-on-one range time at a police range in the next community. All 35 or so officers were qualified and I got 4 for my shooting team...which incidentally, won the State Championship for municipalities. After that year, I got a new State job, centered in another community, so had to move away.
 
I grew up in Fl, hunting everything with shotguns. Other than popping cans with a 22, or maybe taking out someone's dad's dusty rifle to bang away at targets, we never really used rifles. Same with handguns. We fired them at stuff occasionally, but really had no idea what we were doing, from a technical/proficiency point of view. Of course, there were the thousands of BBs shot at cans and whatever else in the backyard. I didn't truly learn to fire a rifle or handgun (and eventually much bigger stuff) until I joined the military.
 
What I love about having shot quite a bit from an early age is the comfort I feel when I have a gun in my hands; particularly long guns. I am comfortable and confident that I can make most reasonably good shots. I'm afraid my off-hand shooting days are mostly past. My balance (after numerous foot/ankle reconstructions) is only fair at best.
 
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