Economics of Reloading

Might as well add a poll. “Estimate” how much you’ve spent on reloading equipment (not components)

  • $0

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • $1 to $1000

    Votes: 25 27.5%
  • $1,000 to $2,000

    Votes: 26 28.6%
  • $2,000 to $3,000

    Votes: 14 15.4%
  • $3,000 to $4,000

    Votes: 10 11.0%
  • My answer will scare away any new reloaders

    Votes: 15 16.5%

  • Total voters
    91
IMHO, unless you're a pro or in the reloading business for profit, calculating the overall cost per round of your reloaded ammo is comparable to calculating the cost per pound of the fish you catch. It serves no useful purpose other than to put a damper on the fun you have reloading and fishing. ymmv
Agreed. Someone once asked me what I figured the pheasant I hunted cost per pound. They were serious. I laughed and said even though I harvested 125-150 wild birds a year, I'm sure you could buy prime rib for much cheaper. I also said that I'd continue to gladly pay the price for my birds.
 
I'm in the UK. I was fortunate that when I first started shooting full bore in 2008, a chap I knew was selling up a complete set of reloading kit cheap. I bought a shotgun from as well him to sweeten the deal. I quickly bought up a lot of n140 and RL15 to reload with and a few hundred bullet heads. I am still using them - it was then cheap to add in the win 270 dies subsequently.

There is a large reloading community in the UK because we don't have gun shops on every corner with a wide selection of ammunition! I have maybe 6 shops in total within 40 miles of me and the factory ammunition stock is very variable and very sparse (except for rimfire) - you can never guarantee getting the same factory ammunition twice.

Just a few years ago it would not have been financially viable to buy all that kit new, unless you wanted to as a hobby, but now with the absolute (almost unbelievable) scarcity of powder and large rifle primers, it is increasing in popularity again - even allowing for the cost. I am reloading with RL19 for the win270 simply because it was the only powder I could get for that calibre - seriously. The fact that powder and primers also have to be generally purchased face to face (not posted) and you need to show your Firearms Certificate first, seriously restricts your options.
One or two suppliers use specialist couriers but the price is astronomical.

Cost aside - it is a nice feeling to be insulated from factory ammunition supply problems for the foreseeable future.
 
I'm in the UK. I was fortunate that when I first started shooting full bore in 2008, a chap I knew was selling up a complete set of reloading kit cheap. I bought a shotgun from as well him to sweeten the deal. I quickly bought up a lot of n140 and RL15 to reload with and a few hundred bullet heads. I am still using them - it was then cheap to add in the win 270 dies subsequently.

There is a large reloading community in the UK because we don't have gun shops on every corner with a wide selection of ammunition! I have maybe 6 shops in total within 40 miles of me and the factory ammunition stock is very variable and very sparse (except for rimfire) - you can never guarantee getting the same factory ammunition twice.

Just a few years ago it would not have been financially viable to buy all that kit new, unless you wanted to as a hobby, but now with the absolute (almost unbelievable) scarcity of powder and large rifle primers, it is increasing in popularity again - even allowing for the cost. I am reloading with RL19 for the win270 simply because it was the only powder I could get for that calibre - seriously. The fact that powder and primers also have to be generally purchased face to face (not posted) and you need to show your Firearms Certificate first, seriously restricts your options.
One or two suppliers use specialist couriers but the price is astronomical.

Cost aside - it is a nice feeling to be insulated from factory ammunition supply problems for the foreseeable future.
Hello from the colonies
 
I'm in the UK. I was fortunate that when I first started shooting full bore in 2008, a chap I knew was selling up a complete set of reloading kit cheap. I bought a shotgun from as well him to sweeten the deal. I quickly bought up a lot of n140 and RL15 to reload with and a few hundred bullet heads. I am still using them - it was then cheap to add in the win 270 dies subsequently.

There is a large reloading community in the UK because we don't have gun shops on every corner with a wide selection of ammunition! I have maybe 6 shops in total within 40 miles of me and the factory ammunition stock is very variable and very sparse (except for rimfire) - you can never guarantee getting the same factory ammunition twice.

Just a few years ago it would not have been financially viable to buy all that kit new, unless you wanted to as a hobby, but now with the absolute (almost unbelievable) scarcity of powder and large rifle primers, it is increasing in popularity again - even allowing for the cost. I am reloading with RL19 for the win270 simply because it was the only powder I could get for that calibre - seriously. The fact that powder and primers also have to be generally purchased face to face (not posted) and you need to show your Firearms Certificate first, seriously restricts your options.
One or two suppliers use specialist couriers but the price is astronomical.

Cost aside - it is a nice feeling to be insulated from factory ammunition supply problems for the foreseeable future.
This is our future, ladies and gentlemen.

Thanks for contributing. I used to chat online and via email with a goodly number of folks in the UK when I shot service rifles. I was gifted some pretty pricey items simply to get them out of the country and some place safe where they could be appreciated.
Ever grateful for the British sense of community in this regard. Cheers!
 
Trying to think of any example where the price of admission is higher than the cost of care & maintenance over time: kids, cars, property, guns, golf, reloading, boats, fishing, battery tools, etc... (using "creative" accounting for some of these examples, as in the down payment for car/home compared to the total cost at payoff with interest)

Some folks don't allow for these costs when calculating what they can "afford". I'm no different... ☕
 
IMHO, unless you're a pro or in the reloading business for profit, calculating the overall cost per round of your reloaded ammo is comparable to calculating the cost per pound of the fish you catch. It serves no useful purpose other than to put a damper on the fun you have reloading and fishing. ymmv

No kidding. I have never heard anyone pondering about how much money they "wasted" on condoms... ;)
 
I got into reloading around 1980 to save money per round. Back then, I could reload a 38 Special round for less than the cost of a round of 22 LR.

I enjoyed reloading so it is a hobby unto itself.

I have dies to reload something north of 30 cartridges, form several wildcat and obsolete cartridges and cast many of my own projectiles. I have 10 presses if you include shot shell loaders

I really do not care what my cost per round is these days, I know it is equal to or less than buying factory ammunition and is better ammunition than factory. I keep adequate supplies on hand so I never run out of ammunition or have to grovel on the internet to buy some factory ammunition.

Reloading is not for everyone. Case in point, I used to do and enjoy servicing my street cars. Now, I service my cars with my checkbook.
 
Are we supposed to include back up equipment in just because storage at alternate locations or just what we use today. 🤪
Yep - down to the last, old, worn smooth, penny ;). And on a spread sheet. With dates. And where purchased.

For the most part, if I'm reading everything right, the vast majority are comfortable with what they've spent, whether known or not, on their reloading gear and would not factor it into the "economics of reloading". New reloaders ask the question all the time. We are just giving them a reason to ignore the question.
 
Agreed. Someone once asked me what I figured the pheasant I hunted cost per pound. They were serious. I laughed and said even though I harvested 125-150 wild birds a year, I'm sure you could buy prime rib for much cheaper. I also said that I'd continue to gladly pay the price for my birds.
One of my favorite jokes, posted in another thread, but it relates here, I think:

Sven and Oly went on a duck hunting trip. They drove up from the City and rented a lodge. After a week of hunting, they headed home with only two tiny ducks. Oly starts adding up the cost of the trip and tells Sven, "$700 for lodging, $60 for gas, $350 for meals, $126 for ammo and all we have is two ducks. That comes out to $618 per duck." Sven, a little shocked, replies, "Whew! Good thing we didn't shoot any more!"
 
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First, I'm going to say this isn't about comparing the cost of reloading to the cost of buying ammo. Before I started reloading, I was looking at that cost and the start-up cost of buying the equipment. That mostly went out the window once I started reloading. Now it's become a hobby and, a bit like buying guns, looking for deals for things on "The List".

And like the guns I've bought, I keep a spreadsheet on what I have, what I paid, what I sold and for how much.

I've been patient (read "slow") in acquiring equipment and getting my reloading up to where I think I want to be (I'm way past where I "need" to be). Part of the reason for being "slow" is I've made a list of things I want, and then look to find it used. If I can't find it used, then I wait for a decent sale, or look for the lowest price.

Where does that put me? To date, I've spent a net of approximately $2,390 on reloading equipment. This does not include consumables or components. Recently, I input estimated used resale values into my spreadsheet. After looking at ebay prices, sorted for lowest price sold and forum trading post prices, I think a reasonably conservative estimate of what I could sell my equipment comes out to be $2,210. Admittedly, I will likely never sell my equipment. That will be up to my heirs, and they might not be as patient as me in trying to realize the value of the equipment I've hoarded. Did I say hoarded? I meant acquired (I mean really, how did I wind up with 5 uniflow powder measures? :what:)

To add the cherry on top, the cost of equipment factored into the cost per round over time becomes negligible the more rounds I load :uhoh:. How's that for rationalizing another $1,000 of equipment remaining to buy that is on "The List"? :thumbup: .

My logical conclusion is everyone thinking about reloading should ignore the cost of equipment. :rofl: OK that might be a fallacy argument; you should do your own research and draw your own conclusions. I don't want anyone out there to get in trouble with their significant others. And yes, I know - those are rookie numbers...
You sound a lot like me. I started reloading 45 Colt in early 2022 because I couldn't find ammo to buy and I didn't want to starve my guns. Being a retired banker, I went thru the entire cost analysis of what each round would cost me assuming I re-used brass from factory ammo I've already shot. Not taking into account the $600+ in Lee Classic Press and extras I bought for my little ammo factory, I figured I could make a round for about half of what I would pay on-line, when you include shipping, taxes and FFL fees. But like you, I found it was a pleasurable "hobby" for a retired 69 year-old guy to indulge in. I would branch out to load other calibers but I'm already sitting on a nice stash of factory ammo for all my other guns. My kids can decide on that option when I'm gone!
 
See the car in my to the left in my avatar? I'm 55 and have had it since age 15. Bought it for $1,300. It's been worked up from being really slow and rusty, to a 13, 12, 11, 10 and 9 second car with multiple engine/trans/rear end combinations. I don't DARE add up how much has been spent. I could easily buy a house. lol
But, when it comes to passion projects, it's not about the money. It's about the fun and enjoyment!
If you're not enjoying your money, you're missing out in life!
Live responsibly, but don't be a miser. Can't take it with you! :cool:
Well said!
 
55+ years in, I started with a Lyman Spar T, which is now dedicated to 9mm and a MEC super 600 which I still have but no longer load shotgun, added a couple of Lee presses some 30 years ago. I load 9 different cartridges and other than minor stuff like collets, de-capping pins and replacing case prep bits have not needed much recently.

Pointless to add up what I spent back then but I could not afford to buy the same tools at today’s prices.

Detail oriented as I am, it’s been a very enjoyable hobby regardless of the cost.
 
I suspect a lot of new reloaders start out thinking they were going to save money and over time end up where us long-timers are now. Don't know how much I've spent, don't really care, just wish components weren't so expensive now. From reading these posts, a lot of us have moved from that beginning to where we enjoy handloading almost as much as shooting our handloads. I enjoy rolling and shooting my own.
 
For the most part, if I'm reading everything right, the vast majority are comfortable with what they've spent, whether known or not, on their reloading gear and would not factor it into the "economics of reloading". New reloaders ask the question all the time. We are just giving them a reason to ignore the question.
I think the way I read it is that many of us started reloading to save money. So doing the math might have been important on that first press. But to the folks like me that found they enjoyed the hobby, subsequent purchases were not scrutinized nearly as closely, if at all. When I bought my Dillon RL1100 with a Mr. Bullet Feeder 1.5 years ago, I didn't do any of the math. I shoot a lot so I figure it'll pay for itself at some point, but that was really not a consideration. Plus I got good money selling my Dillon 650 (should have kept it!).
 
One of my favorite jokes, posted in another thread, but it relates here, I think:

Sven and Oly went on a duck hunting trip. They drove up from the City and rented a lodge. After a week of hunting, they headed home with only two tiny ducks. Oly starts adding up the cost of the trip and tells Sven, "$700 for lodging, $60 for gas, $350 for meals, $126 for ammo and all we have is two ducks. That comes out to $618 per duck." Sven, a little shocked, replies, "Whew! Good thing we didn't shoot any more!"
Good one. I lived in MN for 35 years and could tell Sven and Oly jokes for hours. I have the accent down pat. I still do that around campfires here in the Ozarks. Those guys and Lena are funny folks.
 
LEE PRECISION is by far the greatest value in all things reloading. Can you get higher quality components from some of the other brands? Yep. Are you gonna pay waaaaay more? Yep!
That is a great value, especially for a starter. But from what I've read, they can be putzy too. Plastic parts breaking and/or wearing out. Little adjustments, etc. My first metallic reloader was an RCBS ammo master progressive. Loaded on that for a lot of years. Good press, but it too was putzy. Seemed like every time I went to use it, I had to tweak something. But I produced a lot of ammo from it and was overall pretty happy with it.

Then the wife got into CC and target shooting. So the amount of ammo we used went way up. The main impetus to upgrade was that I could not get a case feeder for that old press, and feeding cases was really slowing me down. So I went to a Dillon 650 and cranked out 10's of 1000's of rounds with it. Pour in cases, powder and primers and pull the handle. Once it's dialed in, it stays dialed in. I still have that old RCBS, but have since bought 550 and 1100 Dillons. Sure, it's more money but my satisfaction and production level is much higher with them.
 
Good one. I lived in MN for 35 years and could tell Sven and Oly jokes for hours. I have the accent down pat. I still do that around campfires here in the Ozarks. Those guys and Lena are funny folks.
If not the sharpest tools in the shed. :)
 
I got into reloading around 1980 to save money per round. Back then, I could reload a 38 Special round for less than the cost of a round of 22 LR.

That was our idea, when my Brother and I went in 50/50 on our first press. Money was finite back then and we were looking for a way to shoot more with what we had.

I enjoyed reloading so it is a hobby unto itself.

I have had more of a love/hate relationship with reloading. The more I know, the better we get along though.
 
Fixed cost of equipment is one part of it. The variable cost of components is another. If a guy is just punching holes in paper........there are ways to cheapen things up. So there are 7000 grains in a pound. Take 9mm for example, there are powders where it only takes 4 grains to spit out a slug. On paper, that would yield 1,750 rounds per pound. Or a different powder that costs the same per pound......might take 7 grains........that one yields 1,000 rounds. The paper may not notice the difference. That is before we start talking about RMR, PD bullets, Fiocchi vs CCI primers, etc. But all that aside, and including cost of equipment..........what is the value if there isn't any ammo on the shelf to buy at any price? As I understand it, Washington State is looking at legislation that says buying ammo is not a right, but a privilege........one the state can grant or take away. That is the value of reloading.

But as for all those other costs........Jeff Foxworthy has the best take on it.........

 
I’ve probably spent between $1500 and $2000 so far. Did some bartering for some stuff…got some stuff from others who’d moved up or
moved on.

To buy this year (before tax or shipping):

For sure: $360 + tax = $390

550C Conversion Kits in .308 Win and .223 Rem ($150)

A couple Dillon powder funnels ($42)

A Dillon Super Swager ($148)

Lee factory crimp die .308 ($18)

Maybe: $343 + tax = $370

Dillon caliber conversions for 7.26*39 and 6.5CM. ($150)

Dillon powder funnels - 3 ($63)

Another beam scale ($130)

And that doesn’t include wanting to build up my stocks of primers (1st) and powder (2d). Will also add to the bullets in time once I settle on specific rounds.

Rookie numbers to be sure, but Yeah, this is saving me a lot! LOL!
 
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