Ed's red for corrisive ammo?

[Renton83]

I've just started shooting this Chinese copy of the Tokarev, the Norino Type-54. I wasn't sure what to expect from a gun I got for $100 but I was really pleased with it at the range. The recoil seems much less than a 9mm and it was actually pretty accurate at 20ydrs. The guys shooting next to me were shocked when they saw the large muzzle blast and large report from such a small cartridge. My only problem is ammo is in short supply in Canada, and America too I hear. The only stuff I can find now is old surplus that has corrosive primers, I've heard stories about how fast it can rust a barrel. I always use Ed's red solution for cleaning and love the stuff, if I scrub the bore out good with it will that prevent rust?

 

[gunnutery]

I don't know what's in "Ed's Red," but I've read that cleaning with ammonia after you're done shooting will take care of the corrosive salts. After the ammonia, clean as normal. www.theboxotruth.com has a good article on this issue.

Have fun.

 

[kingpin008]

It's not even the ammonia - plain old clean water will clean up corrosive ammo residue just fine. Just remember to dry your bore afterwards, and you're good to go. I wouldn't waste Ed's Red or even Windex on the matter.

 

[stolivar]

NO

he one I've used for 4-5 years is...........

25% each by volume: Acetone - Mineral Spirits - Kerosene - Dexron Auto Trans Fluid (that's were the "red" comes from). Add a little industrial lanolin if you can get it. It takes a day or so to dissolve but adds a touch of lubricity.


You need to use soap and water or something like Windex or ammonia to clean the bore. (it takes out the corrosive salts)


steve

 

[gaowlpoop]

Here is an article on corrosive ammo. Basically the corrosive materials are not oil soluble (petroleum), they are water soluble.

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu13.htm

 

[GRIZ22]

Nothing cleans corrosive salts better than water. Hot water and/or soap help to dissolve the salts some. There is a test someone did on Surplusrifle.com showing this. Windex or ammonia doesn't do anything water can't do in this regard. Windex is in fact mostly water. Hoppe's #9 and old GI bore cleaner will also remove corrosive salts.

 

[Renton83]

Ok thanks for the info.

 

[Sunray]

Ammonia does nothing. Neither does soap. Like kingpin008 and GRIZ22 say, plain water does. Very hot water is a bit better as it tends to evapourate faster. Then clean as per normal.
Renton83, you in Canada? Please join us at http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/.

 

[NC-Mike]

Don't be afraid of corrosive ammo either. Its not nearly as bad as most people make it to be. A couple quick swabs with water-soaked patches, then clean and oil as usual and you are good to go.

 

[Jim Watson]

There is a modification of the formula to "Ed's Pink" with soluble oil and water added. Sounds like a lot of trouble to me. Just clean with water, dry, and then Ed's Red or whatever.

Hoppe's does not contain water and is not reliable on chlorate primers. Neither is current production GI, you need the old stuff from when the M1 was still in service and WW II - Korean ammo still in use.