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By Stephen Elliott, [email protected]

GENESEO -- When one of Illinois' gun control bills finally broke through the Senate last week, it sent a collective chill up the spines of five local gun manufacturers and the 500 employees it could impact in the Illinois Quad-Cities area.

Last Wednesday, Illinois Senate Bill 1007, which bans making, selling, possessing, delivering or buying magazines that hold more than 10 bullets, passed 31-26. On Monday, local gun manufacturers, politicians, and representatives from the Illinois Quad City Chamber of Commerce held a press conference denouncing the Senate bill and jobs it could cost the area.

One of the messages sent out during the press conference at Springfield Armory in Geneseo was if Illinois gun manufacturers are limited by Illinois state laws, other states will make offers to move their businesses.

The problem is most of the area gun manufacturers here don't want to leave. Other gun control legislation has been proposed this year in Illinois but have not had the votes to get out of the Illinois Senate until SB1007.

'We are fighting for our survival,' said Springfield Armory co-owner Dennis Reese.

Along with his brother and co-owner Tom, the Reeses have a business with about 165 employees. It is Geneseo's third-largest employer behind Geneseo School District 228 and Hammond-Henry Hospital. Springfield Armory spokesman Bill Dermody said if SB1007 passes the House of Representatives and is signed by the governor, the company might move to another state.

'It would create a lot of soul searching for us,' Mr. Dermody said. 'We would have to make reduced capacity magazines for our guns to comply.

'It would put us at a significant competitive disadvantage with other gun manufacturers across the country.'

'How do you expand?' Dennis Reese asked. 'How do you make investments which is what we need to do frankly. We're constantly wondering when they're (gun control legislators) are going to come back at us again.

'They have no idea of the impact this is going to have.'

Tom Reese said the past few years have given his company little reason to be happy about Illinois' future.

'It does require a lot of time and effort,' Tom Reese said. 'It leaves a leaves a lot of people nervous –- our employees, bankers. It's very difficult to run a business.'

Illinois Sen. Todd Sieben, R-Geneseo, said the Senate bill does nothing to control crime.

'What it might do is make the streets of Geneseo a little bit emptier, it might make the streets of Hillsdale a little bit emptier, or in Milan,' Sen. Sieben said, referring to the existing gun makers shops closing down or moving. 'Or in the Quad-Cities, it might empty out the streets when these fine manufacturers take the economic incentives from Iowa and Missouri.'

Rep. Mike Boland, D- East Moline, and Pat Verschoore, D-Milan, agreed.

'I've said it several times,' Rep. Verschoore said. 'If Chicago has a problem, let Chicago take care of it, but leave the downstate people alone.'

'They are all high-cost type of weapons,' Rep. Boland said. 'These weapons are not the type brought in from a truck from South Carolina or someplace onto the streets of Chicago and sold off the back of that truck.'

Sen. Dan Kotowski, D-Park Ridge, the bill's sponsor, said last week that the bill would limit the damage done by criminals.

'Acknowledge the reality that there's only so much we can do,' Sen. Kotowski said. 'There's 300 million guns in the country. ...Criminals are going to get guns. Why not limit the damage that they can cause?'

Mark Westrom, president of ArmaLite, Inc., Geneseo, employs 85 people. Along with his wife, Judy, the two have an expansion project on hold because of SB1007 and other bills that have been attempted this year.

Karl Lewis, president of the 110-employee Lewis Machine and Tool Co., in Milan, said he has also put expansion plans on hold because of potential Illinois gun legislation.

Henry County Sheriff Gib Cady said after the press conference that the county is adopting a resolution opposing any legislation, 'that would infringe upon the right of the people to keep and bear arms and consider such laws to be unconstitutional and beyond lawful legislative authority!'

He said various gun bills proposed in Illinois this spring will not curb gun violence.

'This hurts the economy and the intelligence and common sense of the working citizen,' Sheriff Cady said of SB1007. 'All you have to do is look at the states that have gone to conceal and carry. The crime has gone down.'

Rock River Arms, Colona, has also said it would relocate if necessary. Les Baer Custom, Inc., Hillsdale, owner Les Baer was also present Monday. Mr. Baer is in the process of trying to move his business to LeClaire, Iowa. Two weeks ago, a Davenport Alderman said he spoke to Rock River Arms and Lewis Machine and Tool about moving to Davenport.

Geneseo Ald. Ed Deener, 1st Ward, said if Springfield Armory and ArmaLite move from Geneseo, 'it would devastate us. Housing values would go down. School revenues would take a dive. It would be just like dominoes in a negative way.

'It would have a ripple affect.'

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'This hurts the economy and the intelligence and common sense of the working citizen,' Sheriff Cady said of SB1007. 'All you have to do is look at the states that have gone to conceal and carry. The crime has gone down.'

It is refshing to see one cop on our side.
 
What do you think guys? Is there a chance IL could still be saved from this CA style ban?

Given that this is Illinois politics nothing is certain but as I understand it the situation is not yet hopeless.

It is certain that the Govenor will sign it if it passes.:barf:

NukemJim
 
Given that this is Illinois politics nothing is certain but as I understand it the situation is not yet hopeless.

Good luck. IL is bad enough as it is (I go around the entire state when traveling with guns).
 
This time? Absolutely, it can be stopped. It actually has less chance of passing than failing in the House, the way I read it. The Rules committee in the House isn't a total slam dunk, either. I expect my rep (Gary Hannig) to make waves on the Rules Committee against this measure.

According to the State Journal Register, no Senator from any district outside Chicagoland voted for the thing in the Senate. It's far from a done deal. Keep calling and sending letters. If you're from Ohio or Missouri or wherever and you want to help, call the people on the Rules Committee ( www.ilga.gov ) and tell them your state is ready to welcome Springfield Armory, Armalite, Les Baer, Rock River Arms, DSA . . . . .
 
If you're from Ohio or Missouri or wherever and you want to help, call the people on the Rules Committee ( www.ilga.gov ) and tell them your state is ready to welcome Springfield Armory, Armalite, Les Baer, Rock River Arms, DSA . . . . .

Yes, Ohio is very gun friendly except for perhaps Cleveland.
 
Move to southern VA. I suspect the only reason a firearms manufacturer would stay in Il is maybe the transportation issues associated with shipping, storage and marketing costs. Why any gun manufacturer would stay in a gun unfriendly state has to be a cost advantage, otherwise it would be pretty stupid to stay there.:)
 
Yes we are. And Lord knows we could use the jobs too.

You arent kidding. Even with a college degree I am still working bummish jobs at the moment, nothing in the computer science field anymore, hell I'd work a press at Armalite at this point :p
 
If you're from Ohio or Missouri or wherever and you want to help, call the people on the Rules Committee ( www.ilga.gov ) and tell them your state is ready to welcome Springfield Armory, Armalite, Les Baer, Rock River Arms, DSA . . . . .

Oh yes indeed!! Arizona is very gun-friendly, and has a low business tax structure.

Giving those Illinois legislators the impression that these companies are a hot property that the rest of us would fight to get, might give them pause to think. Be sure to tell them that you will be contacting YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVE to clue them in on a potential opportunity that they should go after.

This is not what they want to hear in Springfield... :evil:
 
Yes, Ohio is very gun friendly except for perhaps Cleveland

Columbus is full of leftist moonbats, too (Sorry for insulting those lunar flying furry thingys.. :D )

City of Columbus (in 2006) passed its own "Assault Weapon Ban", so the NRA pulled the 2007 convention out of there. Columbus city council whined about "Arm-twisting" by the NRA, but refused to remove their AWB. So, the NRA removed the 2007 convention.

Cleveland has some sort of "Register your firearms with the City", but I don't know exactly what it is. Hizzoner Mayor Little Frankie Jackson has vowed to defeat the state-wide local gun law pre-emption that went into effect with the last round of CCW law fixes, by using City money to go into court over the pre-emption.

Overall, though, we NEED more good manufacturing jobs here in Ohio. I would be delighted to see Les Baer, Springfield, Armalite, et al make a big move to Ohio.

To shamelessly steal a line from 'The Price Is Right', "Firearms Makers, COME ON DOWN."
 
They ARE hot properties!
If Illinois is stupid enough to chase 'em off, I'm sure we could find room here in Indiana.
 
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