Egyptian Hakim

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I was looking in the local paper and and a gentleman had "4 old rifles for sale." I called him and he had a couple old mausers and a Egyptian Hakim in excellent condition for $150 each. Someone picked up his 1917 Eddystone yesterday for $150. I have never seen a Hakim, but I purchased her anyways. This is a weird rifle. The gas system is similar to an AR with the gas tube. I am in the process of cleaning her up and will post pictures tomorrow. The stock has a thick finish similar to Russian shilac found on Mosin Nagants and captured 98s, but it really has no dents and hasn't been sanded. Anybody have any experience with this rifle that can give me some pointers? This thing has a ton of parts.
 
You got an awesome deal!

I had a really nice one that I bought for about $450 a few years ago. I ended up trading it for a Finn SVT40. Not because I didn't like the Hakim, just because I have more ammo for the SVT. I wish I would have kept the Hakim too.

The Hakim is pretty much an 8mm Swedish Ljungman with some slight differences. It is indeed a very interesting rifle.

More info here: http://www.surplusrifle.com/hakim/index.asp
 
The Hakim is a scaled down version of the Swedish Ljungmann, which Egypt manufactured under license. When Egypt wanted to modernize, having had quite a few of the Ljungmanns captured by Israel, and having come under Soviet influence, they designed a rifle that used many of the Swedish features and was chambered for 7.62x39, but also had features of the Russian SKS, especially the folding bayonet and the sights.

In fact, the front sight and bayonet arrangement was either made in the east bloc or was copied so closely from the SKS that it even has the hole for the cleaning rod, even though the Hakim has no corresponding hole in the stock.

Jim
 
rashid

or sometimes spelled 'rasheed' is the 7.62x39 scaled down version of the Hakim.

The Hakim is chambered in 8mm Mauser (7.92x57mm). And yes, for 150 bucks that is a SUPER deal!
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I too just got a Hakim for $400. But make sure before you fire it that the gas port is turned on. I mention this because a lot of the Hakim's that were sent over here had the gas ports turned off. Don't ask me why but they did it. I know this from my dealer who used to own a pristine example of one and knows the history of it quite well. If you do decide to fire it and you have to manually eject the casing then the gas isn't on and you will need the gas adjustment tool. You can find those online very easy. Yes, it is a very weird un-orthodox design but is extremely simple to field strip which is a huge plus. The magazine is detachable if you already haven't figured it out but they were mainly designed to be loaded via stripper clips. The problem is only the German Mauser clips will work. The more common Turkish and Serbian ones will not, believe me I have tried and have looked up the information via online and my dealer to back my point. You can buy extra magazines but prepare to pay $80 a piece. Well this is my info on it, you got a good deal on your Hakim just like I got a good deal on my SVT-40. Got it for only $475 a few months back. Perfect bore, perfect stock, gas-valve works properly, all matching numbers except for the magazine but then again finding a matching magazine is like finding a needle in a haystack these days and a non-Finn or German capture.
 
I bought a Hakim for ~$200 about 7 years ago from a guy desperate for cash who wasn't in a haggling mood. It is a real beast to shoot. Mine came with the factory 10 round magazine and an after-market 20 rounder. The 20 rounder is fun to let loose with on a slow range day. The guy I got it from had bubba-ed a thumb hole in the stock but I repaired that with a wood plug and filler. Watch your fingers and thumbs, this gun is a real piranha. Numrich has 10 round mags for about $50.

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I got a Hakim from the guy in New England that has a ton of them and sells them off on gunbroker. It was about $200. I bought it when 8mm was still cheap and plentiful, as it now is no longer. It is missing parts, most of which are impossible to replace. I am still working on modifying a Ljungman handguard, and it is far from a replacement. The end product will have a shorter stock. A Hakim is quite a bargian as far as 8mm semiautos go, and those are few and far between. Turkish 8mm is too hot for the Hakim, and sometimes, the primers are hard enough on military ammunition for the firing pin spring to fire. So it might be wise, to go online and get a few springs and such while they are still available. Hakims are heavy but resonable accurate, even with cheap ammunition. Congratulations, to tinroad and scott.
 
I have a Hakim. It is by far my favorite surplus rifle. It is accurate when it likes the ammo. The sights are regulated for the 196 grain bullets, and with it groups are tight.

The turk ammo is not too hot for a Hakim. Adjust your gas system to match it. I have fired cases of the stuff with no problems. It is a 154 grain bullet though so it does not shoot to point of aim with the sights.

As far as Magazines go it is designed for stripper clips (and the Turk fit just fine). You have to know how to use them. You don't just push them in from the top, like an SKS or Mauser. You put it in with the bullet tips pointed at the sky and rock it forward till it is in postion. Strip the rounds in. BTW.. the stripper design is made to be kicked out if you close the bolt on it. A really good design if you think about it.

I have modified mine to use WW2 German MG13 magazines. They hold 25 rounds. The mod is easy and still allows you to use the original mag. The mags also have to have a minor modification.

You may have to use a propane torch to heat your gas regulator in order to get it to move. Mine was frozen when I got it. I broke a sight tool trying to get it to move. Put anti-sieze compound on the threads after you get it moving.


You got a great rifle at a great price.
 
I have some new commercial 8mm ammo. Is it too hot to shoot in the Hakim?
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Actually it might not be hot enough. Surplus 8mm is almost always hotter than commercial loads.
 
$150 for a Hakim!!!!!!:what:

Congrats! You got yourself a heck of a deal. I've seen this things selling for up to $600 in all sorts of conditions from good to bad.

You did the right thing, passing that up would have been a mistake, again congrats! I can't wait to see the pics, but then again I really don't need to be more jealous than I am already;)
 
hot and not so hot ammo.

On the surplusrifle site (linked above) are directions for the gas system.

A safe way to check new ammo is to shut the gas valve completely, so that no gas gets into the system; and the action does not cycle of course.

Then open the valve one click at a time until the action cycles gently but completely. At that point it should fling the ejected brass 6-8 feet, according to what i have read on the subject.

Turk ammo, btw, got mixed reviews on Paralax's forums and other C&R-intensive forums, mostly negative in Hakim's though. But you will certainly find more than one example of folks who shoot tons of Turk through Hakims and never have a problem. Your mileage may vary...

Parts are a problem. There is a guy who goes by, or used to go by, jb57 or something similar and he has (had?) a fairly extensive supply of parts. I dont know if he is still out there or has his old inventory. He also made some perfectly functioning mags for the Hakim.

About that, i wonder if putting the 25-rd mags in the Hakim violates 922-r?

Anyway, enjoy the sweet rifle you just picked up!
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A Hakim for $150, congrats, they used to be about $250 here at gunshows, now they are $400 to $600. I have only shot one once, but it was quite fun. I always forget how to work the slide.
 
What parts are a good to keep on hand? I generally try to keep firing pins, springs, extractors, and ejectors for my other milsurps.
 
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