Elderly widow and Mad Bear Attack - Colorado

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There was an old lady feeding bears killed by them a while back....somewhere near Ouray.
If I recall, she was eaten.

So Democrats.....

You pass this law. As of now a neighbor could try to help her by loaning a slug shotgun or a 44 for protection. But come July the good samaritan becomes a felon and likely Federally Banned due to the maximum sentence being well over a year.
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Yes...that lady was crazy...but I am trying to generalize. Transfers sans BC are limited to family....the Dems started their bill disallowing "lending" except at shooting events on a commercial range. Would have prohibited letting your ex brother in law from trying your old 30-30 at your ranch. As proposed it will disallow a hunting guide from loaning a backup rifle to a client with a broken gun.
 
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This may sound harsh, but I don't feel too bad for her. She was asked repeatedly by the Colorado Division of Wildlife to quit feeding the bears (over the course of a DECADE), but kept doing it. She liked playing with fire, and she finally got burned. Also, could you post a link regarding the second portion of the post about lending firearms?
http://www.denverpost.com/technology/ci_13023974
 
Maybe that old lady was a bad example.

So what if the "widder-woman" is being threatened by her ex soninlaw. The cops are always 22 minutes away.

If this law passes, you can't loan her your Smith Model 10.
 
...a link regarding the second portion of the post about lending firearms?
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My emphasis added http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/cl...2AFC2F87257A8E0073C303?Open&file=1229_ren.pdf

THE PROVISIONS OF THIS SECTION DO NOT APPLY TO:

A TRANSFER THAT IS TEMPORARY AND OCCURS WHILE IN THE HOME OF THE UNLICENSED TRANSFEREE IF:

THE UNLICENSED TRANSFEREE IS NOT PROHIBITED FROM POSSESSING FIREARMS; AND

THE UNLICENSED TRANSFEREE REASONABLY BELIEVES THAT POSSESSION OF THE FIREARM IS NECESSARY TO PREVENT IMMINENT DEATH OR SERIOUS BODILY INJURY TO THE UNLICENSED TRANSFEREE

THE TRANSFER IS A TEMPORARY TRANSFER ...WHICH TRANSFER TAKES PLACE:

AT A SHOOTING RANGE LOCATED IN OR ON PREMISES OWNED OR OCCUPIED BY A DULY INCORPORATED ORGANIZATION ORGANIZED FOR CONSERVATION PURPOSES OR TO FOSTER PROFICIENCY IN FIREARMS

AT A TARGET FIREARM SHOOTING COMPETITION UNDER THE AUSPICES OF, OR APPROVED BY, A STATE AGENCY OR A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION; OR

WHILE HUNTING, FISHING, TARGET SHOOTING, OR TRAPPING
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Maybe that old lady was a bad example.
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It's a perfect example of how lending a firearm would make criminals of both parties.

Loaning (temporarily) a non-antique firearm would be allowed in the law ONLY when the temporary transfer takes place in the home of the gun owner AND the person receiving the loaned gun (only within the home of the loaner) must reasonably believe they are in immediate danger of life or injury. If BOTH of those are not met, it is a crime.

The only other temporary transfers allowed by law are while at the very specific shooting ranges defined in law (no backyard plinking between friends) and while hunting/fishing/trapping, but only when the person receiving the loaned gun is licensed to hunt. Loaning a gun to a friend while backcountry hiking so that the friend can use it to prevent imminent death or serious injury is a crime.

Even if neither party is prohibited by law from possessing a firearm...
  • The neighbor who wishes to give the old lady a spare H&R Pardner single shot would make criminals of them both.
  • The neighbor who wishes to loan the old lady a firearm for any reason would make criminals of them both... if the temporary loan does not take place inside the first party's home, at a qualifying shooting range, etc.


Am I reading the law right?
 
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Well the transferee is the widder lady. But seems she couldn' t remove the gun from her home...no protection at the McDonalds or You are liable. And she can't be loaned a gun to go hiking....cause it is not hunting fishing.

Terrible law.
 
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And she can't be loaned a gun to go hiking....cause it is not hunting fishing.
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Dang, that's a good point.

We need to come up with a list of innocent scenarios like this to put in the face of the state Senate.

  • My elderly neighbor lady borrows a shotgun of mine every year when the bears start milling around our neighborhood but the law you are debating will make this illegal. Wouldn't you prefer that I help her protect herself?
  • The lady next door will usually ask to borrow my .22 rifle when she takes her dog on extended hikes in the woods... but the law you are voting on will make this illegal. Wouldn't you prefer that I help her protect herself?
  • I lent a revolver to a single mother from my church last summer after her boyfriend went to county for hitting her... but the law you are considering would make this a crime. Wouldn't you prefer that I help her protect herself?
  • The widow across the road asked me to teach her how to shoot now that her husband is gone, and we just went out to the back 40 to practice with my guns... but the law you are trying to pass would make this illegal. Do you suggest that I refuse her requests to help her protect herself?
 
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