Equalize the gun lobbies, two gorillas better than one

[john1911]

Too bad the 200 pounder spends a lot of it's energy sniping at the 800 pounder.

This is the way I see it. Why send money to a group that will spend that money trying to ridicule another group working for the same thing?

 

[ArmedBear]

Wouldn't the GOA attack him for that, rather than support him for being as pro-gun as he(or she) is?

Absolutely.

And this is not a hypothetical, either.

Fred Thompson, AFAIK, voted for the Lautenberg Amendment, though I don't think he's particularly proud of that in hindsight. However, he strongly believes in the individual right to keep and bear arms, in the right to armed self-defense, and concealed carry rights. Furthermore, he articulates these things and doesn't just say, "I love sportsmen!"

I'd love to have him as a serious candidate. He didn't lie about his gun record, one way or another. But I'd hate to see the trash that GOA would throw his way if he mounted a serious campaign in the future.

 

[JImbothefiveth]

That's a shame. I'm not against there being more than one gun lobby, but I'm not comfortable with supporting one that would actually hurt gun rights.

 

[No Fear]

Are you sure it wouldn't just cause division? For instance, the most pro-gun candidate to ever make it past the primaries is running, but he(os she) doesn't believe felons should be allowed to have guns. Wouldn't the GOA attack him for that, rather than support him for being as pro-gun as he(or she) is?

Are you talking about a specific candidate? If that is merely hypothetical, I can answer that based on years of getting GOA's email alerts. First, I guarantee that GOA would MENTION a stated anti 2nd amendment position such as saying that all felons should be forever stripped of their rights to self defense, HOWEVER you use the word "attack." GOA doesn't "attack" people unless they attack gun owners and our rights. If a candidate was 99% pro second amendment and he/she were running against and anti, especially in a normally anti gun district, of COURSE GOA would support them. Come on folks please don't jump to ridiculous conclusions. GOA merely opens the record and gives the full picture of a candidate, but doesn't "attack" them if they're not an "A+" unless that candidate is openly hostile to us.

Don't just take MY word for it, sign up for GOA's email alerts and see for yourself. http://www.gunowners.org/ean.htm

Over the years, I have seen GOA help out some really good pro gun candidates in the primaries that I otherwise would not have heard about, and frequently they've beaten spineless incumbents and/or candidates with wishy washy records on the 2nd amendment who got endorsements from the establishment.

 

[Archie]

I encourage everyone to join several of the pro gun groups. I'm a Life Member of the NRA and the Second Amendment Foundation. I'm a member of a couple others. I read all the flyers I get from various groups and the only one I find attacking other groups is Vince S(omebody) writing in Shotgun News.

Unless I can tell the group is a fraud - like the "American Hunters -" group, I support them to some degree. The more pro-gun groups we have the better off we are.

 

[onebigelf]

I'm a BIG fan of the JPFO. I appreciate the successes of the NRA, but they have from time to time sold out the fact that the primary purpose of the 2nd Amendment is to allow us to protect ourselves from abuse by our own government. I'm not ok with that so I don't send them my money anymore. 2A isn't about hunting. I don't oppose others supporting the NRA, but my money goes to purer ideals.

John

 

[Highland Ranger]

GOA needs to spend a little money on their web site - the 1998 version is unprofessional. Was thinking about joining, but that turned me off . . . .

 

[JImbothefiveth]

Are you talking about a specific candidate?

Well, kind of. My description applied more to his vice president, but he was still pretty pro-gun.

 

[5knives]

NRA spent a huge amount of money on ads and mailings here prior to the recent election. TV, Radio, direct mail, guess I noticed about Five good ads per day on average leading up to 11/04.

That's VERY expensive at National Ad rates!

Nary a GOA ad to be seen, not one!

None from JPFO either, but Aaron doesn't have that kind of money, buy the JPFO material and distribute it, that's what I do.

Belonged to GOA for 6 years, got tired of nothing but posturing, empty rhetoric and sniping at the NRA. CCKBA (5 years) wasn't much better.

Today, JPFO and NRA Life Member!

I think I'm getting good value for my money!

YMMV and that's okay too!

Regards,

 

[raz-0]

I'm puzzled by all the arguing.

For less than the mark up on a a post election AR, i can join the NRA, SAF, GOA, and the JPFO. Probably even have a little left over for an NRA_ILA donation and throw an extra $10 at each of the others, or join a state association of gun owners.


I've got to await until my next paycheck, but that is my plan.

 

[Rimmer]

No Fear,
Over the years, I have seen GOA help out some really good pro gun candidates in the primaries that I otherwise would not have heard about, and frequently they've beaten spineless incumbents and/or candidates with wishy washy records on the 2nd amendment who got endorsements from the establishment.

Names?

 

[pbearperry]

I may be totally wrong in my feelings here,but the NRA has been here since right after the Civil War.For many years they were the only kid in town.Now there are so many gun rights outfits that I totally get confused.If all the others are doing such a great job,why is it that the gungrabbers never attack them?Only the NRA is hated by them.Seems to me,the others are just pretenders that have created a bunch of jobs for folks that cannot work for a living.If I am wrong,please set me straight with solid facts,not flaming hysteria.