Ever had to pull your weapon?

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PennsyPlinker, that's just terrible. Not that you drew on the dog (I woulda probably wound up doing the same), but the fact that they actually had the audacity to use a "pet" as a weapon, for the sole purpose of terrorizing you and your dog. Now, I'm all for someone being able to rely on their dog to watch their back, but this was an unwarranted attack.
 
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Yes... Two weeks after hurricane Katrina, a "Katrina Refugee" crashed into the house at 2am in the morning.

Of course we are a half a mile or so in the woods up a hill on a dead end last and only house up there, so I responded in home invader fasion. Wspecially since the pair drove through the hard, knocked down a stone wall, drove back into the house, around it and into the back yard screaming out the windows at the top off their lungs,,, drunk and smoking crack cocaine...

The house and doors were bashed in and I caught them on the run and held them with a bead till police responded from 911...
 
One dark and lonely night some 20 years ago I stuck a .45acp in the faces of two miscreants at 2:30am. Two jokers broke our campsite and were laughing and I heard one of them say, "watch this", but that was as I had exited the camper and came up behind cover with one in the pipe and an extra mag in my pocket.

They saw me and then I herad one of them say, "we better leave now", and so they did.

My family survived because of this and whenever I hear anti gunners claim guns kill, I know they are full of poop as in this instance guns saved lives.

Disclaimer:
No miscreants were harmed during this exercise.
 
Years ago, when I was a boy, we saw lights in the pasture. I went to investigate and found some bums had cut our fence, spread cattle feed, and were selecting a few steers to shoot and haul away. When I came up, they allowed they could whip me. When I cocked my .30-30, they left.

About 15 years ago, on a cold, dark night I had a low tire. So I stopped at a convenience store and bought a can of fire sealent. I made two mistakes -- first of all, I let a couple of creeps see my wallet, which had about $25 in ones (and looked fat.) Second, I backed around behind the store where there was a parking area with a light -- but no one could see me -- to fill the tire.

I was on my hands and knees when one of the creeps came up and said, "Hey, Man, how about you give me all that money?"

I'll never forget the look on his face when I showed him my .45 and made an alternate suggestion.
 
it's interesting how many times attempted robbery result in a displayed weapon and no incident. According to my current law class, we hoosiers can only protect persons with deadly force, not property.

of course i would do the same thing and explain how threatened i felt.

havn't pulled or carried a gun yet.
 
it's interesting how many times attempted robbery result in a displayed weapon and no incident. According to my current law class, we hoosiers can only protect persons with deadly force, not property.
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Read the Geneva Convention. There's no paragraph that says, "When someone points a gun at you, and you do what they want, they aren't going to kill you anyway."

Or to put it another way, I wouldn't shoot a man because he was trying to steal my wallet. I would shoot him because he was threatening to use deadly force against me.
 
Seancass,

Robbery is NOT a property crime it is a crime of violence against a person.

A guy sees your wallet on the seat where you left it, breaks car window and steals it - this is theft where no deadly force is allowed.

A guy shows you a knife and demands your wallet - this is a violent personal crime and you can shoot.

robbery "theft/larceny of property through the offender's use of physical force or fear against a victim"
 
absolutely, if he is threatening you, shoot him, but ONE(or more) story i read in particular was "hey give me your wallet"... Victim presents means of deffence and says "no."

there was no actual threat to a person and a good(bad) lawyer would say you escalated the situation. its not right, but that is what would happen if police got involved and some prosecuter actually let it get that far.

granuale, i actually dont know if you can assume that they intend harm if they walk up to you on the street, but in your home in indiana, if they are just robbing you, you cannot legally shoot them. If you kill them and then say they threatend you, good for you. The police will ask if you are ok and if you need anything, then leave. Also in Indiana, a baseball bat is not deadly force until he is close enough to hit you with it.

Of course i could be wrong on all this, i'm just taking the words from a lawyer and we know how trustworthy they are. and theres always more to the law than just what the law says. I'm not trying to say i'm right, i'm saying this is the way i understood it.
 
Grizzly Adams, that's just terrible. Not that you drew on the dog (I woulda probably wound up doing the same), but the fact that they actually had the audacity to use a "pet" as a weapon, for the sole purpose of terrorizing you and your dog. Now, I'm all for someone being able to rely on their dog to watch their back, but this was an unwarranted attack.
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WaltonS, the post you are referencing doesn't belong to me but to PennsyPlinker but I concern with what you say. If it had been me I probably would have shot the dog and then called 911.
 
I have'nt had to pull. But last night I had my hand on the grip ready to pull if needed.
My wife and I were coming home from her parents last night, about a fifteen mile trip, and most of its fourlane unlimited access highway.
We had a driver in a hurry come up behind us at about sixtyfive, in a fifty mph, zone. This guy was one of those drivers that changes to the fastest lane, only to have it slow down when he gets in, just to have the lane he just left pick up speed and pass him again. This went on about five times or more, each time you could see this guy cutting sharper, and quicker, and coming close to rear ending a couple of time.
I finally got around him in the passing lane. This road ends into an interstate. Right lane goes north, left lane goes south. Just got to the split, when this guy shoots from behind me, and tries to pass on the shoulder from the right.
He's out of lane, and forces his way over in front of me.
literally nose dives his truck in front of me pointed into the guard rail and blocks my path. He gets out yelling, cussing, and screaming. Comes up to my window with both hands into fists. I can't go anywhere, I can't go forward, and backward is into oncoming traffic.
I surprised myself I was able to remain calm, but I did put my hand on my pistol. I didn't cuss or yell ( which surprised my wife). I just told the guy he was in the wrong, and to get back in his truck. He kind of squatted, and reared back, with his right fist as if he was going to punch the window.
I told him again to go back to his truck. he glanced down a little, saw my hand inside my jacket,without another word stood upright, walked back to his truck, got in and left.
Thats close enough for me.
It's funny I would think that most times the decision to pull or not would be yours, but I realize that the other guy will make that decision for you.
My wife asked me when we settled down a little what I would have done, if he had punched through the glass. I told her he made that decision. I had my hand on my gun, was calm, not stirring this guy up. I was ready to pull, if came through the glass, he would have ate a bullet.
I was ready to stop at anytime. The outcome was in his hands. And thankfuly
we both went home safe, or at least my Wife and I did. Who knows what this guy did after he went on his way.
 
Had to "pull" an HK-93 rifle once when a guy tried to run a friend and me off of I-44 in Missouri in the middle of the night (probably to carjack us). When he saw the HK-93 pointed at him through the windshield, he took off at speeds approaching 100mph. We'd already seen evidence of him trying something similar with another vehicle, and heard later from a friend that he'd almost shot the guy for the same reason.
 
Yes, just yesterday. Went to my FFL (local pawn shop) to look at a new rifle a friend was buying. Parking lot is empty, just me and two store employees (one the owner) talking guns, politics, etc.

Pickup truck pulls up into the parking lot and two men get out. They are wearing hooded sweats with the hoods up and their hands in the front pocket. As they move to the door, the driver BACKS UP into a parking spot and remains in the vehicle. Conversation dies as we watch through the front doors as this is happening.

As the two men came in, the hair on the back of my neck literally stood straight up; I cannot remember the last time that happened. I slowly moved over to the side of the shop opposite the gun counter in such a way that I was behind a chest high display aisle. As I did so the owner of the pawn shop said "Can I help you gentlemen with something?"

One of the men mumbled something and bent to look into the gun display, while the other looked around at the cameras mounted in the corners of the shop. At that moment I firmly believed the shop was about to be robbed and I drew my weapon and held it down near my leg. The tension was unbelievable.

After another 10 seconds or so the men both just turned and walked out. They got in the pickup and immediately drove away.

I looked at the two employees and we all let out a collective breath. We were all thinking the same thing.

I'm glad nothing escalated. I was carrying my Taurus 605 .357 snub with no extra rounds. Today I have the same weapon on but you can bet I have a speedstrip in my weak side pocket.

jw
 
Only twice. First time was when the wife and I were just married and living in our first appartment. Sitting in bed reading before lights out. Hear this guy pounding on the front door. I go to see what up and say who is it. This guy yells "open the door you f***** rag ass". I tried to look through the peep hole and he has blocked it with his hand. I say get your hand away from the peep hole. He mutters something and takes his hand away. I see this scruffy looking guy standing their. I hold my Dan Wesson to my side and open the door and say "what the hell do you want" (I know, probably a mistake). This guy's eyes got so big you could have raked them off with a stick. Turns out it was some drunk kid looking for his brother's appartment and got the wrong building.

Only other time was when a neighbor's Chow came into our yard and started popping it's jaws at my son. Grabbed my 5906 and started to draw down on it, but the neighbor girl called it back and it left.
 
Once, when confronted by a herd of javelina intent on getting at the groceries I was unloading from the car. Fortunately yelling/arm waving eventually scared them off with no shots fired.
 
Only once. When I was in the NAVY, I was stationed on board USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN CVN-72 @ N.A.S. Alameda CA. My wife and I had an Apt. in town. There had been a series of sexual assualts in our building. the local police susspected that it might be a sailor because all of the victoms were sailor's wives or girlfriends, whiel their men were on duty. I get off duty @ 0700, we lived about 1 one mile from base, by the time I drive home, my wife and I almost always pass each other on the stairs because she is on her way to work. on this day we did'ent, as I go to put my key in the door it just kind of pushes open, as I look inside I see a man's work jacket on the floor and the door to the back bedroom is closed, to my left is my refridgerator that I keep my cocked and locked COLT Officer's .45 ACP. on top under yesterdays newspaper, { I take it out of the nightstand and put it there when I leave the Apt. incase I need it when I come home } I reach up and feel for it and it's still there, as I grab it I hear a mans voice mumbel something in the bathroom, my heart starts to pound and all I can think about is where is Annie!!! I slowly make my way to the bathroom door, I turn and point the gun at his head and as he comes into focus I recognize him, it's my ******* landloard :what::fire: I say to him " What the **** are you doing in my Apt. and where is Annie ? He says " your toliet was running and I was fixing it and I don"t know where Annie is. " I told him to never enter my Apt. when I'm not home and I would call him if I needed him. They cought the guy about 2 weeks later on the floor below mine. He was not a sailor, just some thug caseing the building.
 
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WOW!

You folks sure do live "The High Road" here. Amazing how your situations scare the bejeezes outta me. Yet, to me, this is what it's all about: Having the skill, the judgement, the sense of responsibility, and the courage to carry a weapon.

I am in awe of your skills, judgements, responsibilities, and courage "under fire."

Michael
 
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