maybe. i suspect the LADA and IAD (or whatever entity purports to investigate alleged LE misconduct in that jurisdiction) would have come back with such a weak case that the guy would get off with 6 months probation, as has happened any number of times in the past.
Ex-cop sentenced to 102 years for staging raids
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highorder
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Except in the movie Heat, the bank robbers weren't weighed down with armor, impared by drugs, and managed to escape.
highorder
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that poses an interesting question;
Should LEO's who commit crimes and are convicted for them be given additional punishment?
People speak of holding LEO's to a higher standard. Others insist that LEO's are just like everyone else.
thoughts?
Should LEO's who commit crimes and are convicted for them be given additional punishment?
People speak of holding LEO's to a higher standard. Others insist that LEO's are just like everyone else.
thoughts?
Kaeto
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The punishment for murder should be Death. Carried out 3 days after sentencing. And done by marching the condemned into the prison yard, kneeling him down, and putting a bullet in the back of his head.
armoredman
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Highorder, yes I do believe that. Darn few others do, but I do, that any member of law enforcement, from the Attorney General of the United States on down, should be held to a higher standard, and punishment, upon lawful conviction of crimes.
Furncliff
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And it only took them 3 years to catch him and 7 years to convict him. Swift justice?
I vote for the same.
Keep in mind that given the claim of 24/7 policeness, any crime they commit is while they are a police officer, therefore they should get various other charges tacked on along the lines of official misconduct, obstruction, civil rights violations, etc, that would have the effect of increased penalties for the same offense.
If 40+ home invasions does not get you life imprisonment, how many should it take?
Illinois has the 3 X rule. 3 class X felonies and you go away for life.
CA used to have the 3 time loser bill where a third felony got you a date with Sparky.
RoadkingLarry
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I'm thinking the judge is right but for a different reason, I think the guy should get a needle in the arm.
zxcvbob
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He deserves a long sentence, but it should have been 50 or 60 years w/o possibility of parole for the multiple armed robberies, etc. Why should the sentence be longer because he used a gun rather than a pitchfork?
What happens when "the commission of a crime" is just possession of that gun?
I'm glad to see him put away for life. But it was for the wrong reason.
TallPine
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I wouldn't use the term "utter terror".
"Serious concern" maybe...
I'm probably more likely to be killed by a mountain lion that be a victim of any flavor of no-knock raid. But we have a lot of mountain lions around here
On topic: I don't see a thing wrong with the sentence except perhaps it is a little too lenient
outerlimit
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Hilarious. Imagine if they still had that law today. If you got caught CCWing three times you'd get fried!
I am not willing to make a general statement that police officers should be held to a higher standard than any other citizen. I fully support prosecuting police officers who are involved in armed, organized crime just like any other citizen who is involved in said activity.
Technosavant
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Not bad, Scott, but I'd make a few changes to make things ideal:
Use a gun in a crime: shot by victim
Shoot a gun in a crime: shot by victim
Shoot someone in a crime: shot by victim
But for the unarmed victims, the law makes sense.
outerlimit
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Why not? They took an oath and have powers of arrest that other citizens do not.
Judges are held to higher standards.
JohnBT
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"Why should the sentence be longer because he used a gun rather than a pitchfork?"
Because guns are easier to conceal and more deadly than a pitchfork? I know that's why I carry a gun and not a pitchfork.
If pitchforks were a problem they'd likely be singled out for attention just like guns.
John
Because guns are easier to conceal and more deadly than a pitchfork? I know that's why I carry a gun and not a pitchfork.
If pitchforks were a problem they'd likely be singled out for attention just like guns.
John
XDKingslayer
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It almost seems you're confusing a life sentence and a long sentence. He got 102 years in prison not a life sentence. Big difference even though he'll be dead either way.
Sentencing him to life would cheapen the punishment for murder, but only giving him 50 years for what he did cheapens the punishment for his crimes. And his punishment is being cheapened as it is. Over 40 home robberies, some with a firearm, and he only gets 2.5 years a piece?
As a responsible law-abiding gun owner, I have NO problems with enhanced penalties for using a gun in the commission of a crime. Why on earth would anyone oppose this? Do they plan on committing crimes with guns? Anyone who would commit a crime with a gun should be locked up longer, because they've shown that they're willing to kill the innocent. That's just insane, and not at all what we should stand for.
Glad to know that our nation does not have this problem(I mean happening more frequently). I did not see or know who were the target of these raids. Why were these homes or people targeted? I guess the bank robber said it best: asked why he robbed banks he answered "that is where the money is"
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