Facebook is hampering access to Bud's page

[old lady new shooter]

Here is the email I just received. Bud's is OBVIOUSLY not engaged in the "private sale of firearms", so this is pretty bogus.

Having trouble accessing the BudsGunShop.com Facebook page?
Facebook is utilizing an algorithm block that prohibits access unless responding to two pop-ups. Unfortunately, because this isn't something created by Buds, we have no control over its removal. It is likely this will remain indefinitely, but our page is still accessible!

To regain access and continue supporting Buds Gun Shop, click "Continue" and "See Results Anyway." The pop-up boxes will look similar to the ones below.

Don't let Facebook discourage you from staying up-to-date and in-touch with Buds and your 2nd amendment right. Be sure to follow us on Instagram so you don't miss anything!

 

[stolivar]

No problem here.

Steve

 

[Jim Watson]

Trying to run any business off FB is stupid, there just isn't the capacity.

 

[MedWheeler]

I'm surprised Bud's would even have one. What's wrong with their URL? I've ordered a few guns using that route, and never had an issue.

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

FB is stupid,

There, fixed it for ya.

 

[Tirod]

Short answer, don't use social media.

The First Amendment doesn't thrive there. Continuing to use it is like accepting Gen Gage to safekeep your guns. They willingly gave them, and he willingly never returned them. His officers were continuously invited to Boston social events, and even the troops were hired to work as warehousemen after their shift. How do you get rid of them if you wine, dine, entertain, and pay them to do your labor? Every click or post on social media does that.

Even worse, once the guns were locked away, by further agreement, those who wanted to leave were given it. Then more and more restrictions were slowly imposed - until they were barely able to escape with the clothes on their backs. Absolutely no food was allowed to be taken from the city, their baggage searched, it all pried and pawed thru.

https://www.newenglandhistoricalsoc...oken-engagement-people-boston-delivered-arms/

Boston is an example of how to do it wrong. Gage kept moving the goal posts - sound familiar?

You cannot comply your way out of tyranny.

 

[lemaymiami]

Not a lot to like about Facebook... and even less to like about what they do there...

 

[Double Naught Spy]

Short answer, don't use social media.

The First Amendment doesn't thrive there.

You realize THR is social media, right?

 

[Jim Watson]

Yes but it is OUR social media.

 

[beagler]

Just another reason why I don’t do FB.

 

[hso]

Looks like they have a post every day this month.

Their commercial webpage is where their sales take place. All I've ever seen was a sale notification pointing towards the webpage and info posts.

 

[jmorris]

I would just avoid FB and go to buds page. Or just avoid FB even if I didn’t want to go to buds page.

I guess it’s like people complaining about ammunition/component prices but buying up everything they can at any price. Own worst enemy.

“I don’t like your policies that I have to deal with all the time.” “Don’t choose to use our service.” Simple.

 

[buck460XVR]

Short answer, don't use social media.

The First Amendment doesn't thrive there

Most Social Media sites practice their rights of private ownership.....their house, their rules for the most part. This site is no different. Many things I can post on Facebook would be deleted here and I would get a nasty PM reprimanding me. Like Facebook, because this site is free, I tolerate and abide by the rules. If I don't like it, I certainly am free to start my own site, with my own rules. No infringement on the First there. I Bud's is so anti-Facebook, why do they still have an account there and continue to post? Probably, because it is a good way to reach out to millions of people. With all the options on the interweb for access to gun orientated sites, why would one even whine about Facebook and their gun rules? Because we have become a whining society and Social Media is a good place to whine.

 

[Tirod]

You realize THR is social media, right?

Bulletin Boards existed literally decades before social media became a reality. The biggest difference is a tweeter pops up directly on a device, a forum requires someone to connect to it online, then search for the subforum, click on it, and then start scrolling down to find the brilliant post they left. Sometimes we even read the other posts.

The difference is in which tweets etc one prefers as input on a second by second reinforcement vs the encyclopedic volume of static responses that have been recorded since before 1999. Another difference is that less than 10% of tweeters make more than 90% of the tweets. A forum is has much more depth and the space to explain in detail with photos how to do something. Like, assemble an AR15, or install a thumb safety on a P365. Try that on social media and you get banned.

Social media is the tool of our enemies. It's used to deliberately flaunt the power of our oppressors.I don't go to Starbucks or hang on street corners with hookers, why have social media on my personal device when it's no different?

You have to go to a forum to find threads where millions of views accumulate on over 1,000 pages of posting on one topic, and you can search it years after it was posted. Social media won't do that. They aren't alike at all.

 

[dranrab]

Trying to run any business off FB is stupid, there just isn't the capacity.

Not on the more local level. It is a tremendously effective tool.

 

[Dale Alan]

Not on the more local level. It is a tremendously effective tool.

You are correct, it can be a very good way to get exposure , nothing stupid about that .

 

[lemaymiami]

I'm a fishing guide... about half of my new business comes as a result of fishing reports and similar stuff that I post on line (the other half of new business comes from referrals that folks who've fished with me have been kind enough to offer..). Broken down another way, one third is repeat business - then the remaining two thirds is as described...

For many years my advertising was confined to magazine ads (fishing magazines, of course...). Very gradually, though, the magazine business has declined to the point that I quit paying for those ads (and if you have a magazine you really like on any topic or interest... enjoy it while you can since they're disappearing left right and center). I also used to generate an article or two (you can guess the content...) for select publications -but these days almost none can afford to pay for a single article - no matter how well written or illustrated... .

As a result I've come to rely on the 'net more and more, if they'll allow it. Facebook and similar places aren't exactly friendly in my opinion. They're a specific business model that reach millions and millions - but only under their rules (and those rules weren't meant to benefit anyone but themselves... no matter what they say ). Wish all of our young folks paid more attention to that fact... Put simply, the internet has become the "last man standing" for mass communications. That's something that our country's leaders need to address - sooner rather than later...

 

[Jim Watson]

Not on the more local level. It is a tremendously effective tool.

Well, OK. A friend does very well selling cakes and pies every holiday that she takes over the kitchen.

But Buds with a lot of merchandise or a gunsmith with a lot of services have no way I have seen to publish a catalog on FB.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

Bulletin Boards existed literally decades before social media became a reality.

Bulletin boards are a type of social media. They may be one of the earliest types, but they are not somehow separate from social media as you imply.

What is social media? "forms of electronic communication (such as websites for social networking and microblogging) through which users create online communities to share information, ideas, personal messages, and other content (such as videos)"
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/social media

So THR may be a modern version of the old bulletin board, but it is most definitely within the scope of social media. THR is a community where we social network, share information, ideas, personal messages, and other content, right? Right.

 

[CapnMac]

What's more vexing is that Brownell's f/b page has not been restricted, nor a number of other similar pages.

 

[Jim Watson]

How do I find a given part on Brownell's FB?

 

[old lady new shooter]

I don't go to Starbucks or hang on street corners with hookers, why have social media on my personal device when it's no different?

+1

 

[defjon]

Most Social Media sites practice their rights of private ownership.....their house, their rules for the most part. This site is no different. Many things I can post on Facebook would be deleted here and I would get a nasty PM reprimanding me. Like Facebook, because this site is free, I tolerate and abide by the rules. If I don't like it, I certainly am free to start my own site, with my own rules. No infringement on the First there. I Bud's is so anti-Facebook, why do they still have an account there and continue to post? Probably, because it is a good way to reach out to millions of people. With all the options on the interweb for access to gun orientated sites, why would one even whine about Facebook and their gun rules? Because we have become a whining society and Social Media is a good place to whine.

Yeah, not really though. I hear folks that support this modern censorship repeat "if you don't like it, make your own facebook /google etc".

In the vast censorship after Jan 1st, many groups tried. (parlor?). App stores stopped hosting. Apps were deleted.

"They" own the framework. It's like they own the table any gameboard can be set upon. If they don't like the game you select, they'll shake the table and knock it off.

Not exactly a fair sandbox. I do agree though, I would love a truly free social media experience. Anarchist, conservative, Democrat, it doesn't matter. No agenda but the 1st amendment. Let ideas hold their own water under full scrutiny.

Back on topic, with the controlled echo chamber environment of facebook in full collaboration with the Biden administration, it wouldn't surprise me if traffic was diverted from popular gun sites.

 

[hso]

Welllll, this one veered off topic badly with the majority of posters saying they've never used FB so we'll close on that note.