Fact or Fiction...(Is Marlin quitting the Lever Action Rifle market?)
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InkEd
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Interesting..... Anyone have a link with further information?
littlelefty
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That would be a good fact (fixing the QC issues) based on what I've read around here lately.
I still am deprived of and want a tube fed lever gun someday, and Marlin is at the top of my list; and still is in the "previously enjoyed" versions.
I still am deprived of and want a tube fed lever gun someday, and Marlin is at the top of my list; and still is in the "previously enjoyed" versions.
greyling22
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boy jmr40, I hope it's true. They were putting out garbage. I talked to customer service a few times while we were trying to sort out my 1894css debacle, and they knew they had problems. I felt kind of bad for them.
Bear in mind I said "As near as I can tell". The information is sketchy. This is what it appears to be from reading posts from guys on this and other forums. No one wants Marlin to keep prodcing quality guns than me.
Winchester had horrible problems when they shut down production in 2006 and moved to SC. Today they are producing the best bolt actions on the market in my opinion. Hopefully Marlin/Remington will learn from Winchester.
Winchester had horrible problems when they shut down production in 2006 and moved to SC. Today they are producing the best bolt actions on the market in my opinion. Hopefully Marlin/Remington will learn from Winchester.
sansone
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y'all know marlin is made by remington now ?
the marlington leverguns had QC troubles.
I miss Marlin already
the marlington leverguns had QC troubles.
I miss Marlin already
I've had a Mod 60 for 30 years. It is awesome. Last year i bought a 795. It was great until i tried to put a scope on it. The top dovetail was canted badly. Marlin replaced the gun. The new 795 was also canted, just not as bad. It was usable. I dont know if Marlin has corrected the issue, but there were a lot of 795 owners with the same issue.
Cop Bob
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So where does the problem lie? have they switched to investment cast or MIM parts? Did they hire inspectors with vision issues... do their fancy new machinist not know how to check a program, read a mic or check their work? Or has Remington just run everthing that it has touched lately into the sewer? Their Bolt Guns USED to be the industry standard.. now... I'm thinking about buying a Savage as my next bolt gun...
Remington bought out Marlin, closed the factory where they were built for years and moved production to a different facility. Apparently they let the old workforce go, including supervisors, and hired all new people to make the guns. The new workers have not been trained properly and have been making plenty of lemons.
Remember, all this is info I've gotten from various internet forums and we all know how reliable that can be. But it makes sense. As near as I can tell they have stopped production until they can re-train workers and be content they will ship a quality product.
I truly hope they can get it together.
Remember, all this is info I've gotten from various internet forums and we all know how reliable that can be. But it makes sense. As near as I can tell they have stopped production until they can re-train workers and be content they will ship a quality product.
I truly hope they can get it together.
Sunray
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"...let the old workforce go..." Rumour has it that Remington offered 'em jobs in the 'new' plant, but most of 'em refused to move.
JohnBT
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But the 795 and 60 are autoloaders and the 925 is a bolt. The story is about Marlin delaying production of lever guns. All of their new lever guns weren't bad, just a lot of them.
And Remington? They've had their problems with quality control for years.
I still haven't seen anything on the Marlin story that wasn't based on the original article.
John
And Remington? They've had their problems with quality control for years.
I still haven't seen anything on the Marlin story that wasn't based on the original article.
John
SSN Vet
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jobs at the same wage? benefits?
relocation cost covered?
small details can make a huge difference.
sansone
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I believe the leverguns were to be produced in kentucky? Anybody know for sure?
needless to say a move from new england to kentucky is quite a move for the workers
needless to say a move from new england to kentucky is quite a move for the workers
wow6599
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I called Marlin (Remington) a few days ago about the quality of stock I have on my 1894C. I have had this gun close to a year, but finally decided to either refinish it or call them about a new one. Came with discolored wood, stain on the butt-stock pad, dings, etc. The CS girl just seemed "defeated" and said: "Since you are so nice and not cussing me out I'll just send you a new stock if you'll send the old one back".
I agreed of course. But, I think (by the SN) that it was made in the North Haven plant, so who knows............
I agreed of course. But, I think (by the SN) that it was made in the North Haven plant, so who knows............
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Did you check the SN to find the date of manufacture. (On most Marlins made since 1972 you subtract the first 2 digits of the SN from 100 to get the DOM. If the first 2 digits were 91, then it was made in 2009) I've bought guns that were still new in the box that had been setting in a stock room for 10 years. Finding a 3-4 year old new gun is not unusual.
Carl N. Brown
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Wikipedia:
My Marlins are marked "North Haven". You can move blue prints and machinery, but the workers' experience can't be moved. It has to be learned by experience.
My Marlins are marked "North Haven". You can move blue prints and machinery, but the workers' experience can't be moved. It has to be learned by experience.
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I don't know how accurate this is, but I was told that the Model 39 is still hand fitted and requires a very skilled craftsman to make one work correctly... and that the same guy had been building them for Marlin for years... and that they were dumb enough to not have him training an apprentice. And that he wasn't planning to make the move with Marlin to the new plant.
Someone else may have a better understanding of this - other than really wanting a decent 39TDS, I have very little experience with them.
Someone else may have a better understanding of this - other than really wanting a decent 39TDS, I have very little experience with them.
The faq on their site says it all. Only five year warranty, and oy to the original buyer. Warranty card must be mailed within 10 days of purchase....
Sounds like something you would hear from taurus. Even kel tec will fix whatever you send in.
Glad I got my marlins pre-owned while they were still cheap. I'm betting a used older 336 will be demanding $400 plus within a couple years.
Marlin won't survive this. I can't believe how crappy a new 336 looks and feels. Makes me sick. Hopefully an import manufacturer will step in and pick up the slack. Hate to say it, but prices on new guns have only gone up while quality has gone down. I won't pay for that.
Sounds like something you would hear from taurus. Even kel tec will fix whatever you send in.
Glad I got my marlins pre-owned while they were still cheap. I'm betting a used older 336 will be demanding $400 plus within a couple years.
Marlin won't survive this. I can't believe how crappy a new 336 looks and feels. Makes me sick. Hopefully an import manufacturer will step in and pick up the slack. Hate to say it, but prices on new guns have only gone up while quality has gone down. I won't pay for that.
There is a RUMOR that Marlin has suspended production of lever action rifles to work out QC issues. This is not too surprising, given that production is now being done in a different factory by different workers. IF it's true, it will be a good thing in the long run.
All this is based on an alleged but unverified quote by a well known gun writer and a supposed fax to a dealer, but while I have seen several similar threads in many different forums, I've not seen one single scrap of evidence to back any of it up.
All this is based on an alleged but unverified quote by a well known gun writer and a supposed fax to a dealer, but while I have seen several similar threads in many different forums, I've not seen one single scrap of evidence to back any of it up.
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