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[telomerase]

Where do you get your lib stats of us killing thousands of innocent Iraqui's??

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BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - At least 3,240 civilians died across Iraq during a month of war, including 1,896 in Baghdad, according to a five-week Associated Press investigation.

The count is still fragmentary, and the complete toll - if it is ever tallied - is sure to be significantly higher.

Several surveys have looked at civilian casualties within Baghdad, but the AP tally is the first attempt to gauge the scale of such deaths from one end of the country to the other, from Mosul in the north to Basra in the south.

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I'll be the first to say that poverty from Saddam's half-assed socialism and later from the US blockade killed a lot more people. But if you think that bombs don't kill civilians, you aren't really a soldier. And if you think that the US is going to bring free-market democracy to Iraq, then you are a "liberal", in the FDR-supporter sense of the word.

As far as US interference in the Middle East keeping me safe... I don't think so. If we weren't there, those people would be fighting each other, not us (as Yahveh and Allah intended).

Keep your head down, anyway.

 

[JimP]

'preciate the safety comment.

We didn't kill thousands; that's an out and out lie. Did we kill some?? Of course - but we do not TARGET civilians. To deliberately target civilians is a war crime. Give us soldiers more credit than that. When you look at the results of the precision strikes as you drive around this place - its amazing!! We were able to shut down the gubmint and remove Saddam's communication structure without significant collateral damage. they are having a hard time documenting "hundreds" of killed, let alone thousands. When all is said and done, we'll see that the actual numers are very low. Again, I'm not relying on the press, I'm relying on my own two eyes.

We can differ on where to fight them. A democratic iraq (if attainable) will keep them fighting amongst themselves and not focused on us for a long time. They hate what we have, not necessarily who we are. I say we fight 'em here and not in our own country. you may differ.

 

[Quartus]

Thanks for being there, Jim. Tell the guys there are plenty of us here who appreciate you folks.

And thanks for the battlefield intel.