FBI Chief Faults Heller Ruling

[La Pistoletta]

How on earth can the head of the FBI confuse defense with offense

Easy. To acknowledge the right to self defense, one must first acknowledge the right to life. Without the former, the latter is moot.

 

[pbearperry]

Please don't panic folks.FBI Chiefs only last a few years and then they are replaced.History has proven that if you allow someone to run the agency too long,they become a DemiGod and start to wear dresses in the closet.

 

[Standing Wolf]

Mueller needs to retire.

No, he doesn't. He needs to be fired for failing to uphold the Constitution. His kind of arrogant elitism has no place in American government.

 

[antsi]

a former Marine who served in Vietnam, he said "I tend to believe weapons harm people and more often than not they harm the people carrying them."

I guess the dude, having learned this, probably spent most of his tour in Vietnam unarmed - since the weapon is more of a threat to the guy carrying it. Same would presumably go for FBI agents and campus cops. I guess we should start a campaign to disarm them - for their own safety, of course.

 

[leadcounsel]

AGAIN I ask, why don't we just outlaw murder?

 

[K-Romulus]

Mueller and Mike Barnes (former Brady Campaign president before Paul Helmke) are a disgrace to the Marine Corps.

Too bad for those clowns that no less than three Flag-Grade USMC retirees signed on publicly to oppose the DC handgun ban (see "retired officers' amicus brief"), not to mention the vast number of USMC bumper stickers one can see in the parking lots of any shooting range in America (including my own bumper sticker).

 

[Maelstrom]

Wow...

Marines, please speak up, but I didn't know most marines got hurt by their own weapons rather than use them against the enemy.

Sure! We're taught that in boot camp. My DI constantly drilled into me how my M16A2 was a light-weight, magazine-fed, air-cooled, gas-operated, autonomous machine that attacks its operator when he isn't looking.

 

[Mongo the Mutterer]

Muller and Mike Barnes (former Brady Campaign president before Paul Helmke) are a disgrace to the Marine Corps.

I'd add the rat... John "Abscam" Murtha. I hope Col. Chessani takes a big bite out of his fat a**.

 

[xjchief]

Representative contacted. The chief of the FBI has no business disparaging the 2nd amendment to the constitution he is sworn to uphold.

 

[Phil DeGraves]

"The fact is we can't rule out any community in the United States as a potential incubator of terrorism," Mueller said.

And being able to ban guns is a sure way to stop terrorism...

Did he find some crack in the evidence locker or what?

 

[rdhood]

He said college campuses and small communities could be "potential incubators of terrorism" even while major cities such as New York and Los Angeles remain primary targets for terrorists.

#1 response: since when? He can state "could be" and stick it in front of ANYWHERE in the world he wanted to cast aspersions. But to cast aspersions on small towns... where the heck did that come from? Has ANY small community become such a hotbed of terrorism that it lead to a major attack on a city like New York and Los Angeles? The closest thing we have to that is the Ok City bombing, and that appeared to be 2 or 3 guys with a fertilizer truck bomb... proving that firearms are not necessary to commit terrorist acts. In fact, in THE major terrorist attacks on the U.S in the last 20 years, small arms fire was not involved in *any* of them. The OK city bombing (fertilizer bomb), both attacks on the world trade center (fertilizer bomb and then airplanes), the U.S.S Cole ( some kind of bomb), Ryad Saudia arabia (bombing of U.S. compound). Small arms fire was of no consequence in any of these instances.

#2 response: Yeah, the small communities and and college campuses in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iran and Afghanistan.

This guy is a mouthpiece that should be summarily dismissed for statements like that. Small arms have generally ALWAYS been available in most places in the U.S.... this ruling does not change that. This guy, like B Obama, just cast aspersions of all of rural America ("clinging to their guns") with impunity.

 

[PershingRiflesC-7]

Onmilo wrote:

Having been present at BATFE inspections where FBI Agents were working with them and filling in for BATFE understaffing, I can honestly say I dearly hope they never merge those two departments of federal law enforcement.
The BATFE agents are much nicer and more decent people,,,,,,,

I have to take issue with this as I have had the experience of working with some great retired FBI agents that I have used as instructors for firearms courses. One in particular was universally lauded by students on review forms as the best instructor they had ever had. He was also a strong supporter of RKBA and just generally a gentleman.

I have not made the acquaintance of any BATFE personnel so I don't have a direct comparison. I have had personal interaction with the leadership and some of the staff of the local field office of the FBI in an instructional setting and found them to be just as professional and personable as the retired agents.

As to those who suggest the immediate removal of Mueller for a direct violation of his oath of office, I am right there with you on that.

 

[romma]

What a shame! Government control over the sheep is the theme of the decade for these people...

Sorry Pal, this is still America, and people like you need to be reminded..

Anyone have a good idea to get our point across to him with out getting impounded at the gulag?

There must be an email for Mueller that we can send polite denouncements to him?

 

[doc2rn]

Phil DeGraves wrote~Did he find some crack in the evidence locker or what?

I was thinking the same thing when I read your post.
Now that explains what happened out west in Kansas, tornado comes through Gov. agency moves in.

 

[Cougfan2]

Deleted. Not High Road. Temper got the best of me.

 

[Cougfan2]

Deleted. Not High Road.

 

[Solo]

Mueller said the FBI's top priority remains counterterrorism, counter-intelligence and protecting the secrets of the United States.

If I called Mueller an idiot, would I be guilty of incivility or exposing state secrets?

 

[hso]

"I tend to believe weapons harm people and more often than not they harm the people carrying them."

"I believe" instead of "statistics show" is pretty interesting wording since to my knowledge there are no instances of a carry permit holder being harmed by their own weapon.

 

[scrat]

well if the guy is that dumb to make comments on the 2nd ammendment the constitution he is supposed to defend. Then maybe nextime he should just keep his piehole shut.

 

[Old Grump]

Mueller

Born in New York City, Mr. Mueller grew up outside of Philadelphia. He graduated from Princeton University in 1966 and later earned a master's degree in International Relations at New York University. Nothing about wanting to be top cop there.

Marine Corps officer in Nam for three years, leading a rifle platoon of the Third Marine Division in Vietnam. He is the recipient of the Bronze Star, two Navy Commendation Medals, the Purple Heart, and the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry. Why do the officers get the big awards when the grunts getting killed and doing the dirty work get second level awards. Oh, I forgot, they need the awards to make rank. I'm not anti-marine or anti- officer, knew a lot of good ones but.....there were always a few that we could have done without.

Law degree from the University of Virginia Law School in 1973 and served on the Law Review. Qualified him to be an agent but thats not where he went. 12 years in United States Attorney's Office in the Northern District of California in San Francisco, became chief of its criminal division. (Wait a minute, gun loving San Francisco).

1982 moved to Boston as an Assistant United States Attorney to investigate and prosecute major financial fraud, terrorist, public corruption cases, narcotics conspiracies and international money launderers. White collar political career as a DA chasing big money criminals, not street punks. He wouldn't have gone to the top in his chosen field in his chosen locale if he hadn't been anti-gun, he never had to work with the victims of street crime.

Kind of reminds me of his boss GWB who never having worn his uniform on a battlefield but now he is a supreme military leader, yup. No wonder he likes Mueller. Never in harness on the street but at least Mueller did serve in Nam. Then like Murtha he tossed it to be a politician, an ass kissing gun hating politician who lives in a nice safe community with nice security. Of course, if he doesn't need a gun for protection why should anybody else? Constitution vs wire tapping, no knock entry and search, entrapment, bogus charges....man he don't need no constitution so why do we. He don't need no gun so why do we? Okay, so I am a bit biased but he can't have mine and I don't think we need a non-cop in charge of a cop agency.

 

[usmarine0352_2005]

As a former Marine who served in Vietnam, he said "I tend to believe weapons harm people and more often than not they harm the people carrying them."

"As a former Marine who served in Afghanistan I tend to believe that people harm each other more then the weapons they carry do."


There, fixed.



This guys a moron.

 

[Rumble]

"I believe" instead of "statistics show" is pretty interesting wording since to my knowledge there are no instances of a carry permit holder being harmed by their own weapon.

"I believe" confers authority to a statement that has none. He's an Important Person(TM), so what he believes is good solid believable stuff right there, man. You can take it to the bank. After all, he directs the FBI, right?

 

[pyle]

If he's stupid enough to truly believe what he said - I feel bad for the FBI....

 

[CajunBass]

FBI Director Robert Mueller on Monday criticized the U.S. Supreme Court's recent ruling

His job is to enforce the law. Not to make it, or to interpret it. He should either either salute and say "Aye Aye Sir," or resign in protest.

 

[jaak]

we should publically oust him. i am sick of letting people get away with this kind of crap. if he said something with similar effect to a muslim country, his home would have already been bombed, probably his family tortured, etc. we dont even denounce his statements. we need to be all over this.