Federal XM855 == "Lake City" XM855??

[Arizona_Mike]

Note corrected typos.

Is the Federal XM855 that comes 420 rounds to a 30 cal ammo can on stripper clips, the exact same ammo that other vendors sell is loose bulk seal bags? I have some of each and the only difference seems to be the green paint is worn on the loose ammo.

Mike

 

[1KPerDay]

Is the Federal X129

XM193 shouldn't have any green paint on it, unless they mixed some XM855 penetrators in there.

Be careful if your range/area doesn't allow steel tips.

 

[tahunua001]

xm855 is penetrator and has green paint on it. I have not idea what x129 is though...

 

[ObsceneJesster]

Be very weary of buying loose rounds from retailers. Only buy from trusted distributors. Here is an example of what you might get.


Notice the different cannelure levels of the bullets. This leads me to believe they were reloads and they never even bothered to trim the cases.




Here is a picture of a nice sized dent on one of the cases likely caused by the deflector.


Most of the bullets had mechanical pull marks on them.


Some of the primers were over beveled and two different kinds of brass was used.


Lastly, some of the primers looked like this.

 

[rcmodel]

Anything loaded in LC brass by Federal that has an X in the name is commercial ammo loaded for retail sale.

It has not much to do with mil-spec ammo, except the LC head stamp & date, and over-run or out of mil-spec bullets, cases, powder, or primers they could not get past the government inspectors at Lake City.

Yours in the photo's look like mil-spec LC reject pull-downs they loaded for commercial sale..

rc

 

[Arizona_Mike]

OJ, I Ioaded all the loose ammo on strips last night and it is all pristine and all the same length. Your pictures are shocking to say the least!

The canned stuff is claimed by Federal to be milspec overrun and not rejects: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/78...round-clips-in-ammo-can-of-420-14-boxes-of-30

The small supply of bagged stuff from the other vendor, I will assume _might_ contain rejects. I have 1260 rounds of the former and only 200 rounds of the later suspect stuff.

Mike

 

[denton]

When the military rejects a lot of Lake City m855, they package it up and sell it as sporting ammo.

 

[alsaqr]

Those are reloads.

1. Pulled bullets.
2. Primer crimp removed.

 

[Warp]

Federal ammunition with LC on the headstamp was likely contract overrun ammunition that was not subjected to the military's testing requirements. OR it was subjected to them but it did not pass. In either case it passes commercial requirements and is safe.

Ammo that is subjected to and passes the military tests/specifications/whatever can NOT be sold commercially/retail.

That's why there is an X in front of the number. It is not legal, per prior executive order, for the real M855 or M193 to be sold to the public.

My understanding is that the 420 round ammo cans on stripper (XM855) and the loose packed XM855, are the same ammo. Assuming you bought from a legitimate, honest vendor. But I have seen anecdotal reports that the bulk stuff often demonstrates even worse accuracy than what's on strippers...but who knows.