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mljdeckard
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Of all of the things we need to fight for and protect, convicted felons are at the very bottom of my list.
It is not that easy to get convicted of a felony. Especially if you are a first-time, non-violent offender, everyone, probably including the DA, will look to bump you to a misdemeanor. I would entertain the idea of changing it to violent felons.
The Constitution states that no man shall be deprived of their rights without due process of law. The conviction was due process of law.
Felons don't get released from prison because they are now better people. They get released because there isn't enough room for them, and the system has determined that there is someone worse who they would rather hold onto for now. Our justice system is not based on whether or not someone is READY to be released from prison.
It is not that easy to get convicted of a felony. Especially if you are a first-time, non-violent offender, everyone, probably including the DA, will look to bump you to a misdemeanor. I would entertain the idea of changing it to violent felons.
The Constitution states that no man shall be deprived of their rights without due process of law. The conviction was due process of law.
Felons don't get released from prison because they are now better people. They get released because there isn't enough room for them, and the system has determined that there is someone worse who they would rather hold onto for now. Our justice system is not based on whether or not someone is READY to be released from prison.
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The maintenance man at a company I used to work at had been a gangbanger in his youth. Addictive personality runs in the family, his father and uncle were both alcoholics, he used drugs. I don't know all the details about what sent him to prison but it was an event in which he also got stabbed. In prison he developed a relationship with G-d and in the 30-some years since he was released (he currently works for a friend of mine) he has never gone back to his old ways.
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If the fight was already in progress he may not have legally been defending himself, see "In the Name of Self-Defense" by Marc MacYoung, recommended here awhile back and available on Amazon.
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I imagine that there are some crimes considered felonies that I would not agree with being felonies, but I would take the current way over giving gun rights to anyone as soon as they exit prison. I personally think that violent offenders gave up their rights when they committed their crime and I certainly do not want them representing legal gun owners in any way.
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Felons are released from Prison when they have done their time, not because a worse guy is in and they need room. Building more prisons has been the laws answer for a long time, and thats not stopping. Some very violent people are given less time than say, theifs, or conartists......
An example of Felonys 'here but not there' would be where I live;
I live in a "DRY" village here in Northwest AK
Get caught possessing one Beer or one bottle of alcohol, and its a misdemeanor possession, have 2 cans of Beer or hand one to your buddie, and you will be prosecuted for Felony distribution.
In a domestic violence situation, the Man will be arrested, everytime, and charged. Thats reality, here where I live.
Unless its a violent felony, all Rights should be restored apon completion of their sentence. After release, a stint of supervised probationary period is quite the norm, and the repression of Rights should end apon discharge from that Probation. Thats when the State should help with training and job placement.
The best Money ever spent is on education.
Prehaps anyone in prison should be allowed to attend classes, to better themselfs and pass their "Time", so that they will be employable or self employable apon release....
An example of Felonys 'here but not there' would be where I live;
I live in a "DRY" village here in Northwest AK
Get caught possessing one Beer or one bottle of alcohol, and its a misdemeanor possession, have 2 cans of Beer or hand one to your buddie, and you will be prosecuted for Felony distribution.
In a domestic violence situation, the Man will be arrested, everytime, and charged. Thats reality, here where I live.
Unless its a violent felony, all Rights should be restored apon completion of their sentence. After release, a stint of supervised probationary period is quite the norm, and the repression of Rights should end apon discharge from that Probation. Thats when the State should help with training and job placement.
The best Money ever spent is on education.
Prehaps anyone in prison should be allowed to attend classes, to better themselfs and pass their "Time", so that they will be employable or self employable apon release....
Okay, that was it. We're done here.
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