Felons and their 2nd amendment rights

[caribou]

Don't tell me that line. i worked as a corrections officer. 20 percent of convicts at the prison i worked at would be comfortable in cutting a persons throat then sitting on the body and eating a sack lunch.

Hence the word “most” in the post.......and you have a guards point of view.
I was an inmate, so obviously I worked, ate, walked, talked and killed time with murders, and most ,if given a chance would have slit your throat, not mine.
You know it.

 

[40-82]

Don't tell me that line. i worked as a corrections officer. 20 percent of convicts at the prison i worked at would be comfortable in cutting a persons throat then sitting on the body and eating a sack lunch.

How you view that population depends largely on how you came to know them. If you learned about them from a sociology text, nobody could be finer, more noble, and it's so sad, and dare I say it, tragic, how we've abused them. Those with firsthand experience tend to be less idealistic.

 

[caribou]

Yes, it’s all a point of view and reality isn’t nice in a prison.

In my time in 99% of the guards mostly conducted themselfs as firm gentlemen, with back up.

One joined us for his ounce of meth and the weed he sold to inmates,and a couple of his friends went too, but there’s never 100% to anything in life.

 

[CapnMac]

Well, until GCA 68, felons who had completed their incarceration still had their 2A rights.

 

[labnoti]

How you view that population depends largely on how you came to know them. If you learned about them from a sociology text, nobody could be finer, more noble, and it's so sad, and dare I say it, tragic, how we've abused them. Those with firsthand experience tend to be less idealistic.

I tend to be a lot less idealistic about the people on the outside. People inside are constantly confronted with their fallibility. Most people on the outside are deluded with self-righteousness. On gun forums like this one, scenarios are always good guys and bad guys. Reality is a lot more jacked up than that. Don't mistake me for justifying evil-doers. What I'm saying is there's a lot more of them than the few in prison and the person who thinks the ones that have avoided conviction are saints is deluded, and people tend to be more deluded about themselves than anyone else.

 

[Jim675]

I'm in the free persons are free camp I guess, for a couple reasons.

The first is a core tenet of armed persons everywhere - truly bad guys don't follow the law anyway. If some percentage want to do so they should not be punished by being at the mercy of the others.

And the second is our justice system makes recidivism rates higher than it should. We chose punishment over justice based on restitution. We punish the poor with pretrial jail time which causes them to lose jobs, homes, and families. Many states' occupational licensing schemes and bonding practices makes meaningful employment for ex-cons extremely difficult. I believe when a sentence is done, so is the crime.

 

[Frank Ettin]

These discussion never end well and rather a far cry from the purpose of the Legal Forum:

In the Legal Forum we try to understand what the law is (including court decisions and proposed laws), how it works, and how it applies to RKBA issues. We focus on the way things are – not the way we think they should be.....