FFL says that it is illegal for private to send gun in mail.

[nalioth]

The LAW is very clear, you DO NOT have to declare if the firearm is being shipped to licensed importers, licensed manufacturers, licensed dealers, or licensed collectors.....

Mind the law's wording vis-a-vis "intrastate" versus "interstate"

 

[CraigC]

Call the BATF and ask them to interpret ... they land on the side of "you must declare."

Sorry sir but you're wrong, as I was in a similar argument a year ago. The FAQ is misleading. NavyLT posted a letter from the ATF proving that what you're saying is incorrect.

 

[Phydeaux642]

Doesn't UPS and FedEx require that you declare that you are shipping a firearm? If you don't then they will likely not pay on a claim should anything happen to the package.

It's all still a big PITA if you ask me.

 

[docpadds]

Doesn't UPS and FedEx require that you declare that you are shipping a firearm? If you don't then they will likely not pay on a claim should anything happen to the package.

Thats the key, for instance the wording from Fedex Express is "Upon presenting the package for shipment, the person tendering the shipment to FedEx Express is required to notify FedEx Express that the package contains a firearm."

I never understood why this comes up so often and is argued over.

Every gun we ship out by Fedex or USPS we declare, USPS we do their extra paperwork above and beyond what they technically require. The post office knows us and complements us on how well prepared we are whenever we ship.

We are a block from Fedex but i wait for our driver to pickup instead of dropping off because he knows what we do and scans the package right there and because one day i am going to send out a Stag or something else and its not going to make it to the other end and i will have followed all their rules.

 

[Bubbles]

There are two errors I found in the info on the GunBroker site:

Shipment by Unlicensed Persons
Any shipper who does not have a Federal Firearms License (FFL) is considered to be an 'unlicensed person'. This section contains information on how unlicensed persons can ship firearms. If you have an FFL, please skip to the next section for shipping suggestions.

The most important thing to know is that you must only ship guns to a licensed dealer. If the buyer is not a licensed dealer, he will have to make arrangements to ship the item to a dealer in his state.

Before you ship a gun, the buyer must fax or mail you a copy of the dealer's signed FFL license.

The part in red is false IF AND ONLY IF 1) the gun is being shipped intrastate, and 2) there are no state laws prohibiting private transfers in that state.

The part in green isn't going to happen as dealers aren't going to send a copy of their FFL to a non-licensee, especially someone they don't know. Non-licensees can use FFL EZ-Check to verify an FFL.

 

[CCR]

Also a licensed FFL dealer can only ship a handgun through the post office to another FFL

An FFL can not use the post office to ship a handgun back to the customer only to another FFL

 

[NavyLCDR]

It is Thursday, so we do need to start another thread on shipping guns

Now I am really confused.... I thought Thursday was school zone day?!?
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=529937

We need to set a schedule:
Monday - keep magazines loaded or not during storage
Tuesday - giving a gun to my (friend, brother, mother, mistress) who lives in the next state
Wednesday - shipping any kind of gun anywhere
Thursday - 1000ft within a school, really?
Friday - I am 18 years old and....
Saturday - I am traveling to somewhere/anywhere and want to take my gun...
Sunday - my FFL/Bank Teller/Wal Mart manager/Cop next door told me....

And of course open vs. concealed carry is good 24/7!

 

[wuchak]

...The part in green isn't going to happen as dealers aren't going to send a copy of their FFL to a non-licensee, especially someone they don't know. Non-licensees can use FFL EZ-Check to verify an FFL.

Not true. I have sold several handguns on GB and each time the receiving FFL either emailed a scanned copy or faxed me a copy of their FFL to include in the package. They all also wanted me to write on the outside of the box the name of the purchaser. That way they could call the person when the box arrived and it could be opened in their presence so the FFL wouldn't be blamed for any damage to the firearm.

If you are shipping a handgun out of state it has to go to a manufacturer or FFL or you violate Federal Law so you have to know who you are shipping it to. A person would have to be terminally stupid to just ship a handgun across state lines to some address provided by the purchaser without getting proof that the receiver is an FFL.

 

[docpadds]

We have a copy of our FFL thats been made just for this occasion with the license up top and the instructions at the bottom, we also have heavy watermarking going on.

Really though it is true, just the first 3 and last 5 digits of an FFL are all thats needed to EZCheck to hand you the licensed address.

 

[Art Eatman]

Not only has the OP's question been answered, many unasked questions have been answered as well. Enough.