FFP optic weight

[rbernie]

For hunting purposes, I prefer a variable magnification optic that weighs less than 18oz, since I carry the rifles for a fair distance. Does anyone make a decent FFP optic that fits within that weight budget? Right now, I'm using Tango4s and PST Gen2s and would like something lighter, if I can find it.

 

[Walkalong]

Did some looking and haven't found one under 19 Oz so far.

19.9 Oz

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1020619158?pid=571999

19.2 Oz

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1023226994?pid=533822

 

[troy fairweather]

Swfa ultralight

 

[LoonWulf]

Swfa ultralight

Thought the UL was sfp?

 

[Navy87Guy]

What magnification are you looking for?

I have the Monstrum Alpha Series 1-4x24 FFP that weighs in at 14 oz. My Monstrum G3 1-6x24 weighs 16 oz. If you’re looking for something in the 3-9 range with a 40-50 mm objective, then you may be in for a challenge.

 

[troy fairweather]

Thought the UL was sfp?

I'm pretty sure they have a ffp as Well.

 

[rbernie]

I'm pretty sure they have a ffp as Well.

If they do, I cannot find it on the website.

 

[troy fairweather]

If they do, I cannot find it on the website.

I looked some see it, they did have one maybe discontinued. They have not had many swfa scopes the last year or come in. The 3-9 is 19oz I think you can pull of the extended objective to save a little weight.

Did you list a budget?

 

[rbernie]

No - I’m willing to pay for decent kit.

 

[gotboostvr]

What magnification range are you looking for?

 

[troy fairweather]

I've looked a bit before, I'd like to build a mountain type/ long range rifle some day. Heavy scopes just kill the feel of a good rifle, tho I could live with sfp I guess. Like I said the 3-9hd swfa comes close at 19 oz has good eye relief and are tuff as hell.

https://www.swfa.com/swfa-ss-hd-3-9x42-tactical-30mm-riflescope.html

 

[troy fairweather]

Of you can live with a bit more weight and have the money the march scopes are supposed to be very nice and pretty light for now much they have.

https://www.swfa.com/march-3-24x42-march-f-30mm-riflescope-1.html?___SID=U

 

[rbernie]

What magnification range are you looking for?

2x-3x on the bottom end and whatever I can get on the top end.

 

[horsey300]

2x-3x on the bottom end and whatever I can get on the top end.

Just found these at lgs, read their warranty etc, put their 1-4 on my latest ar, I've been happy with it.
https://www.blackhoundoptics.com/product/genesis-1-8x28-ffp-moa/
Both of these come in real close to 1.5 lbs, I had just looked up lightweight scopes the other day, I'll get back with the ones I find closer to your 18 oz target.
https://www.blackhoundoptics.com/product/genesis-4-14x44-ffp-moa/

 

[horsey300]

Trijicon credo 1-4=17.1 oz
2-10= 23 oz

Sightmark® Pinnacle 1-6x24ACC = 20.4oz

That's the closest I could get for you whilst staying with manufacturers that I'd use on things that actually go BANG.

 

[Txhillbilly]

This 1-10x March scope weighs in at 17.8 ounces, and March is an outstanding scope.

https://marchscopes.com/scopes/d10sv24fiml/

 

[jmr40]

2x-3x on the bottom end and whatever I can get on the top end.

Which probably means no more than about 10X on the top end and more likely 7X to 9X. At those magnifications FFP doesn't offer any advantages. For someone using something in the 6-18X range a FFP scope makes a lot of sense. With scopes with a lot more magnification you'll sometimes find the top end is simply too much and whatever is on the low end isn't enough. When you're in those middle magnification ranges FFP matters, but not on the top or bottom.

I have some FFP scopes on rifles that I only use at the range which is where they shine. All of my hunting scopes vary between 1X on the bottom to no more than 10X on the top end, most are 4X, 7X, or 9X. I zero at the highest magnification, but almost never move them from the lowest magnification when hunting. With most of them I'm good for 100-200 yards on the lowest setting. If something is over 200 yards away I have time to change the magnification and there is no disadvantage to skipping everything in the middle and going straight to the highest magnification.

There are lots of SFP options under 16oz., some closer to 12oz.

 

[Jim Watson]

I looked through a March scope one time. The clarity was amazing, the price was stunning.

 

[gotboostvr]

Which probably means no more than about 10X on the top end and more likely 7X to 9X. At those magnifications FFP doesn't offer any advantages. For someone using something in the 6-18X range a FFP scope makes a lot of sense. With scopes with a lot more magnification you'll sometimes find the top end is simply too much and whatever is on the low end isn't enough. When you're in those middle magnification ranges FFP matters, but not on the top or bottom.

I have some FFP scopes on rifles that I only use at the range which is where they shine. All of my hunting scopes vary between 1X on the bottom to no more than 10X on the top end, most are 4X, 7X, or 9X. I zero at the highest magnification, but almost never move them from the lowest magnification when hunting. With most of them I'm good for 100-200 yards on the lowest setting. If something is over 200 yards away I have time to change the magnification and there is no disadvantage to skipping everything in the middle and going straight to the highest magnification.

There are lots of SFP options under 16oz., some closer to 12oz.

Yup, I agree with all of this.

With a hunting rifle I won't need the subtensions if I'm on the lowest power, if I'm turned up, I might. If I'm turned up, it'll likely be all the way up. At the range, I could be anywhere in between and may or may not need the subtensions.

 

[horsey300]

Which probably means no more than about 10X on the top end and more likely 7X to 9X. At those magnifications FFP doesn't offer any advantages. For someone using something in the 6-18X range a FFP scope makes a lot of sense. With scopes with a lot more magnification you'll sometimes find the top end is simply too much and whatever is on the low end isn't enough. When you're in those middle magnification ranges FFP matters, but not on the top or bottom.

I have some FFP scopes on rifles that I only use at the range which is where they shine. All of my hunting scopes vary between 1X on the bottom to no more than 10X on the top end, most are 4X, 7X, or 9X. I zero at the highest magnification, but almost never move them from the lowest magnification when hunting. With most of them I'm good for 100-200 yards on the lowest setting. If something is over 200 yards away I have time to change the magnification and there is no disadvantage to skipping everything in the middle and going straight to the highest magnification.

There are lots of SFP options under 16oz., some closer to 12oz.

Yup, I agree with all of this.

With a hunting rifle I won't need the subtensions if I'm on the lowest power, if I'm turned up, I might. If I'm turned up, it'll likely be all the way up. At the range, I could be anywhere in between and may or may not need the subtensions.

My ffps works exactly as described here, when in the field, they're tuned to 1-3 for quick easy acquisition, but for longer ranges, cranked up, range the target (unless close to a marker I already know) and then the appropriate holdover is used to compensate. However there have been instances that (for example) my 12x is more than ideal, when watching the doe on the edge of the herd and making sure that the others don't crowd into the shot at 250(ish) yds, a good holdover at 6-8x is really more ideal (this was used on my r1 very recently on a pronghorn late season doe hunt). Thus my justification for ffp on a hunting rig.

 

[army_eod]

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1022100739

 

[jonc]

Leupold mark iv 3.5-10x40, that's what I have on my dakota 76 in 330 dakota. I was limited what I could mount because of the rear sight and had to keep it under 40ish mm. I also value fov over high end magnification . And I prefer not to spend a lot of money if I can avoid it. I wanted a long range optic with turrets and side focus as well as ffp. I would guess it weighs 20 oz according to specs I found

 

[taliv]

I put some thought into this last night and looked around but nothing I’d put on a rifle even came close to that weight.

did you actually find anything?

 

[rbernie]

I haven't found anything that wasn't mentioned up-thread (e.g. the Trijicon Credo and the MarchF).

 

[taliv]

So are you going to ease up on the weight restriction or what?