Fighter Group Buy Update

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Valkman

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I have knives back from Paul Bos and have been trying to work on them but crippled-up-ness and trips to Vegas for dr appts have slowed things down. I have Browning's ground and the handles on, just have to finish it. Once my ankle lets me walk around again I hope to pound these out and get them to the sheathmakers.

The ones that were already getting leather sheaths should be done this week. I sure hope so anyway!

I wound up with more CPMD2 knives than orders and more orders for ATS-34 knives than I had blades so I am contacting people asking if they'd like CPMD2 instead of ATS-34. When that balance is correct I should have just enough blades to finish this and am now getting 8 more ready for HT and these are made from 440C. I have one guy ordering 6 so these are mostly for him.

I also got a horse stall mat the other day so if anyone wants that let me know. I have no idea how to cut this stuff up yet but I should have enough for my lifetime! :)
 
Finished the handle on Browning's knife last night and it'll go for a sheath today. It's slow going - stupid gout!
 
I don't take either, just Colchicine which winds up tearing me up. I also don't recognize it early enough and think it's regular arthritis. I can walk now but still have a red stripe on the inside of my foot!
 
Here's Browning's knife as it went to the sheathmaker. I used to completely finish it when I had the leather guy send them on to the customer but wasn't happy about the condition the buyer got them in. Fingerprints and being dirty don't work for my knives and aren't good enough for my customers so now they all come back to me for final inspection and cleaning. More shipping costs but what the heck - if this was about money I'd be in trouble!

So I fugure now there's no need to sharpen it before the sheath is made and it's safer for the sheath guy too. :) There's no logos either.

This knife is just under 5 1/2" in blade length, and I worried it wouldn't look "right" but it looks great to me. :)

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That knife is a work of ART! You are definately an artist when it comes to knives, wish I could afford one right now. Do you have a payment plan?:D

I've only had one or two gout attacks and Allopurinol & Indocine worked great, haven't had any symptoms in forever. Neither one tore up my stomach so if you haven't tried them you might want to change. If you like cherries eat them, they're a natural way to combat Gout. The thing about Indocine is that it made me so tired that after taking it I just couldn't stay awake. My doctor said he couldn't understand it as there's nothing in it to make you tired.
 
These are $225 under this Group Buy, and that includes a kydex or leather sheath. I have orders for all the knives I have back from heat treat but will be sending more soon. These will be 440C and I have 2 extra in that batch. Other than that I'm out of steel and have to get more!
 
That would be TART cherries.
They do work very well.
There are a few places on the net that sell the concentrate just for gout.
 
'My Precious'

I didn't know about this thread until just now.

Don was kind enough to PM me a picture a couple days ago for me to drool over.

I find myself periodically going into my private messages over and over again just to look at it.

At first I didn't like the idea of a fuller, but to me it kind of adds something to it and I'm glad it's on there now.

Just a couple more days of waiting and it'll be mine, all mine.

Maybe I'll name it 'Precious'.

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Once I finally get it I'll probably be like this guy.

The only problem with is that it's so damn nice that I'll be afraid to cut anything with it.
 
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One thing about being "too nice" - I wanted to prove how tough these were so I sent one to a guy who is known for destroying stuff. He once broke an anvil and makes knives wish they were never made!

Here's what he's had to say after about a month of having the "Retro Fighter" - one I coated with OD Green GunKote. He's not the best speller but look what he's done with this thing:

I havent had my knife from Don all that long but have had it long enouph to say with assurance that aside from maybe getting it dirty or even staining the handle if you work at it (I fitted mine in the sheath I made for it to soon after dyeing the leather) you WONT hurt it with anything even resembleing normal use.

I have been around metal working most of my life in one form or another and have gotten so I can NORMALY tap a blade and tell how it will hold up by the tone of the ring. Based on the ring from his blade I had thought that it would hold an edge well but suspected it would be susceptable to chiping or breaking because its 'tone' would generaly indicate a blade thats nearly glass hard and thus rather brital. He asked me when he sent it though to put it through its paces and use it as a workhorse to be sure it would stand up to whatever a person might put it through since a lot of these knives go to soldiers and he wanted to be SURE that one of our guys didnt wind up in the sandbox with a busted knife or one that just wouldnt do the job. Well Ive been putting it through its paces and then some....

When I got it it had a decent edge to it but it didnt shave very well and I like a sharp knife so I took a couple hours and 'fine tuned' the edge untill it would shave my arm bald in one pass and cut through news print without freying the edges of the paper then strapped it on my hip to be put to work. I had to build a sort of car port roof over a camper we use as a guest room and I put a tin roof on it. Well toward one end the corigated tin for the roof was 3 layers thick and I got tired of smashing my thumbs when the nails bent rather than going through so I took out the knife, set the neelde tip where I wanted the nail to go and tapped the end of the handle with the hammer and used it as a sheet metal punch to make holes for the nails to go through. I made holes for about a dozen nails this way and while it did dull the tip slightly it DIDNT break and it DIDNT bend and the 'damage' was simply dulling that a good visit with the whet stone will cure. Once I had the structure up, it is free standing and needed to be secured in place so I drove fence posts at each corner then cut sections of rope with the knife to tie the corners down and as most who have done much of it know few things dull a knife as quick as cutting rope. I got it tied down the set up a canopy off the front and used a 2x2 to hold one side of the canopy and it needed grooves by the ends to hold the 550 cord so the knife got to carve/chop out the grooves and cut the tie down lines of 550 cord for that.

The next day I had to help clear around a pond and used a weed eater to take down most of the stuff but when I would come across saplings and such that the blade on my weed eater (its a steel blade not the string type) wouldnt cut, out came the knife and chopped the stuff down. Now the knife is NOT weighted tip heavey like a machette so its not ideal for chopping chores but it IS balanced nicely to be light in the hand so that despite the weight it could be used for long periods without tireing the had or becoming dificult to be precise with. I also used it several times in the kitchen and garden to slice up tomatoes and such and will chop it just dont carry energy of its weight like a machete so its a trade off for which its primary use is and it works on this one well.

The next day I had to run a new electrical curcit for the front pourch. So the knife got to cut a few smaller wires, strip the romex and cut a section of the vinal sideing off the side of the house. Those were some of the highlights of its use in addition to some lighter mundane use to open packages and nip strings and so on.

After about a wek of that type of use the blade was geting to the point that while it would still take off a few hairs it was no longer truely shaveing sharp so I had to touch it up again on the stone. The edge did also come back a lot easier that it had been to fine tune it the first time.

The balance of the knife is also decent as a throwin knife which I found the other day when out bucking hay and a copperhead crossed my path and I didnt have my gun on me (took it off to keep from rusting it from the sweat) so employed the knife to try to take its head off with a toss. Well Im a bit out of practice at throwing a knife so while it appeared that I nicked it (and clearly convinced it it didnt want to be in the area anymore) I didnt cut its head of or pin it with the throw but the ground wasnt abnormaly soft and the blade did go up about to the handle in the ground without a particularly hard toss.

The knife has also seen other unkind use like cutting a bit on saddle leather, chopping small saplings out of the way, cutting cord/string off the mower shaft etc. etc but to put it simply, I have am indeed the type of guy that is liable to break an anvil (and literaly have) and have if anything been intentionaly hard on this knife largely so I could say without reservation that unless you are truely abuseing the knife and trying to chop up cars with it and use it as a crow bar and other insane crap (I'll let you know when I get around to that stuff) you will NOT damage these knives beyond at most minor cosmetic scuff by putting them to work and if you are abuseing them....from what Ive seen so far they stand up and ask for more. As I have discussed with Don, aside from possibly fighting, the design of this knife (a retro fighter) is one that while not the ideal design for any job is about as good as you can realley get for a knife that will work for almost EVERY job.

The true art in any tool is how well it works as a tool and these seem to be fine art by that messure and have the looks as a bonus.


I can't wait to get more reports from him! He thought it was brittle but I knew it wasn't because Paul Bos does the heat treat. As long as the knife is well built it will withstand WAY more than you think it will, which is the only thing good enough for our soldiers IMHO.
 
Jesus, and here I am afraid of scratching the finish.

I figured they were tough, but I don't think I'd EVER use one as a steel punch to cut through aluminum.

Shows you what they'll do if you need it though.
 
Well boys you prolly know I am somewhat of a collector of knives. I actually HAVE been in a couple knife fights, the worst one being another crazed fellow with a bayonet on an M-14 and me with a 8" #1 Randall - I certainly 'won' that one! The other involved a 110 Buck in the bad guys hand and me with an old Draper dagger while I was working on under cover buys, a little cut and the other guy ran off, to come back and sell me stuff haveing 'proved' my self!:neener:
Anyway I sold off my older Randall collection pretty much, and my Jimmy Liles he made me and others and have bought, dare I say it , Mad Dogs .:D I feel they are superior in design, but who am I to say?;)
Now I'm planning on using the heck out of your knife Valkman. My daily users (in the truck and jeep door pockets and around work)are Greco's normally as they are hell for stout, pretty good design and a good blade grind- and inexpensive.
I like that fighter of yours Valkmann because the blade shape looks well thought out and the handle is flat as a knife handle should be for index and without anything on the handle to wear down your skin, but still be non slip. I would rather the blade be flat ground rather than hollow ground , rather have differential hardening and rather it be made out of 0-1 or close, but that is where the MDs come in and I'll certainly enjoy using yours and see how they hold up. I feel that your knife is similar to an MD Bearcat in purpose (which for me is general use NOT fighting) and design (but less than 1/2 the $), I will be putting it to that use!:)
 
When I win the lottery and no longer have kids at home! I'm a big fan of functionality and that fighter is awesome.

Jesse
 
I apreciate it but I do have to close this Group Buy at this time. I have ground all my remaining steel (440C) into 8 fighters and 6 of those are for one order. A couple of people have ordered in the last few days to take the other 2 and I simply am out of steel until I can call Crucible and get more. I have lots of 1" wide 1/8" thick CPMD2 and am trying to build up a stock of small skinners and Bird & Trouts as I have 2 gun stores interested in them.

Once I see how much steel prices have gone up I'll see if I can do this again. I am going to send a few for a day trip to the photog that got me in Blade and see if we can't do it again. :)
 
I also want to say that my customers are the BEST, and I have no better customers than the folks here. I have never had a problem with anyone on any aspect of buying or selling knives and just want to say thank you!
 
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