Finding my ideal 1911

[shooter.45]

Kentucky Rifle,

I have the SIg 220ST which is the all stainless version and what a gun. and the weight is 39.2 oz for the all stainless not sure about the aluminum frame one..

 

[antediluvianist]

springs suck

Oh, such complexity. Trusting your lives to springs. If you must use a semi-auto, get a modern one, why the 1911 with all its malfunctions?

Get an S&W .44 magnum with speedloaders.

 

[zarroboogs]

A buddy at work has gotten my interest in 1911's up quite a bit. I've started to look at some of the models and read through this thread with interest.

A question: I didn't see much mention of the Dan Wesson models (Pointman, Patriot, etc.). I was wondering what experiences folks have had with these? Any comments about them as an entry-level 1911?

Thanks!

 

[10-Ring]

Get an S&W .44 magnum with speedloaders.

Actually, the S&W 625 is on my wish list. If I come across one at the right price, it's mine!

 

[Trisha]

antediluvianist -

In answer to your first question (malfunctions) - zero. The KCE II has just passed 8,000 rounds (200-300 rounds per session without cleaning).

Admittedly wealthier aquaintences of mine who carry Wilsons and STI's and the like also report zero malfunctions. On the flip side, I've seen several highly customized IPSC space guns that became jam-o-matics if you looked at them too hard, but that may be more a case of the particular gunsmith, or the operator demanding tolerances so tight a gnat in a corselet couldn't find her way past the slide rails. . .

Trisha

 

[Sean Smith]

or the operator demanding tolerances so tight a gnat in a corselet couldn't find her way past the slide rails. . .

Best mixed-up metaphor ever.

 

[Tamara]

The "High-End"-brand forums ( Kimber etc.) are full of complaints about $1500- $3000 1911s that malfunction.

You guys who own and fire guns in that price range, what rate of malfunction per thousand rounds do you experience?

Well, you don't find too many Kimbers in the "$1500-$3000" price range, but the two guns I have in that category (a Les Baer Concept III and a Springfield Professional) are top drawer. The Baer has been absolutely faultless, despite living entirely on a diet of powderpuff 200gr SWC's that choke my Glock 30, and the only hiccup from the Pro was after I stomped it into a mudhole, and that was with one of the aforementioned 200gr SWC's, too; it ran just fine on my normal carry load of 185gr +P's despite being thoroughly crusted in red clay...

 

[10-Ring]

Now I see SIG is thowing their hat into the ring! Maybe that HK 1911 isn't so far fetched after all

 

[Tamara]

10-ring,

Maybe that HK 1911 isn't so far fetched after all

...and an HK 1911 would be sooper, why, exactly?

 

[BerettaNut92]

Tamara, because it'll be overpriced, highly tactical, everything will be proprietary, but 10-ring can sleep at night knowing it'll work out of the box

10-ring, how about a Tactical Custom for carry and an Eclipse Custom as a range beater? The Royal or whichever the blued model is looks real nice too!!!

 

[Tamara]

Skunk,

but 10-ring can sleep at night knowing it'll work out of the box

Kinda like both my Baer and my Pro? Or more like my Colts and my old Kimber?

 

[antediluvianist]

don't give it a second thought

Ah, you guys in the States.... you don't know how relatively cheap your guns are.
Out here in the Philippines, and in other places with high tariffs and taxes on imported guns, a mere Smith&Wesson Model 10 .38 Special 6-shot revolver - the basic blued cop revolver - costs about $700.

And your salaries are much higher over there too.

Just spend the couple of thousand dollars for a Les Baer and don't worry about it. You can afford it.

 

[Rob96]

Just spend the couple of thousand dollars for a Les Baer and don't worry about it. You can afford it.

Is there a little bit of sarcasm in that post?

 

[antediluvianist]

statement of fact

No, no sarcasm. It's a statement of fact. You can afford the best.

 

[Rob96]

All depends on what best is. Some people won't consider anything but Wilson, Les Baer, or Rock River. None of which I could afford to buy right away. A Wilson runs around $1800, the Colt I bought cost me $609. It does everything I want, and it worked right out of the box. Where in the Phillppines are you?

 

[antediluvianist]

it's all relative

I'm in Makati, which is pretty much the main business district of Manila.

Well, I don't mean to introduce international rancor into this thread. And yes, sure, what is "best" is a matter of opinion. I use a Tanfoglio 9mm. and it does everything I need , even if it costs a lot less than, say, a 9mm. SIG.

My only "message" is that Geez!, sure costs a lot less in the U.S. to buy guns in terms of either absolute dollars, or- more importantly- in terms of how many days/weeks/months of work it takes to earn the cost of the gun.

I guess that's why many of you guys have entire "collections" of guns, not just one or two or three. Yummy.

And ammo - Geez! again. A speer Gold Dot - one round- costs about a dollar here.

Well, that's how it goes. On the other hand, I have a family driver for $120 a month , and a cook and maids for a song. And the beaches are great. Seafood, sunshine, all that tropical stuff.

Enjoy your guns, Americans!

 

[Gary G23]

Sig

 

[BerettaNut92]

Kinda like both my Baer and my Pro? Or more like my Colts and my old Kimber?

Yes Tamara, like that, but not like my old Wilson and Kimber or his old Springfield

 

[Tamara]

More like your P7, then?